Last Friends

Getting ready to watch Episode 4... Without subs. :sweat:

bmwracer wrote:Getting ready to watch Episode 4... Without subs. :sweat:

I bet we'll see subs by Sunday at the latest if the previous weeks have been any indication..

bmwracer wrote:Getting ready to watch Episode 4... Without subs. :sweat:

I just skimmed through the episode without subs, but it appears I'm missing quite a lot since there are quite a few conversations going, but not much actions. Michiru's really attached to Sousuke :shakehead:

phlargo wrote:I bet we'll see subs by Sunday at the latest if the previous weeks have been any indication..

I was hoping today: last week's showed up really quick.

I believe I read in the D-Addicts subs thread that the subs for this episode were gonna be slow coming out from everyone :puppydog:
Finals :shoot:

atskv9 wrote:I believe I read in the D-Addicts subs thread that the subs for this episode were gonna be slow coming out from everyone :puppydog:
Finals :shoot:

Oh well.

I just finished Episode 4.

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It's only four episodes in, but I'm unequivocally tired of the love/hate/S&M relationship between Michiru and Sosuke... Just kill each other so we can focus on the other more interesting characters. :shakehead:

Ruka seems to be the only "man" in the group, willing to stand up to that loon Sosuke... I hope she's the one who kills this nutjob... In the cruelest, most unusual fashion possible.

phlargo wrote:

You know what's funny.. I kinda thought about that too...

Ruka gets crazy sex change operation and gets with Michiru, and Takeru 'donates' the X chromosomes... and gets jealous of Ruka, kills her and goes to jail. Thus, Michiru is alone raising her little Sousuke.

Oh yeah.. and Eri comes over to my place and we get really drunk (she seems to be good with that)

I kind of have the nagging feeling that Sousuke is the one that will die in the end.Or,Sousuke kills Ruka and gets sent to jail or would it be the other way round?

crvn107 wrote:Sousuke kills Ruka and gets sent to jail

Unlikely, since early in Episode 1 Michiru is writing a letter to Ruka... Or is that a red herring?

bmwracer wrote:

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It's only four episodes in, but I'm unequivocally tired of the love/hate/S&M relationship between Michiru and Sosuke... Just kill each other so we can focus on the other more interesting characters. :shakehead:

Ruka seems to be the only "man" in the group, willing to stand up to that loon Sosuke... I hope she's the one who kills this nutjob... In the cruelest, most unusual fashion possible.

lol you are such a hater.
At least we found out more about sousuke's past now. I can see why they cling to each other so much, although Michiru really just needs to make up her mind already.

bmwracer wrote:
Unlikely, since early in Episode 1 Michiru is writing a letter to Ruka... Or is that a red herring?

what is a ''red herring''? my english is not that good.

i just had a look on veoh program and stil cant find ep4 with english. but the japanese version is already there. i watched 3ep with english from veoh.
has anyone found the english version of it yet and where to watch?
i jus hope english version will be uploaded before next week......
thanks.

While it's not a replacement for subtitles by any means, I checked Garten's Memento anime/drama blog and he's been posting summaries about Last Friends. Being summaries they will contain spoilers, but for those who want an idea of what's going on in an episode while waiting for subs the Memento blog is a nice place to check out.

http://www.designchronicle.com/memento/

On a side note, that blog so happens to be where I found out about Nodame Cantabile :victory:

fourleafclover wrote:

what is a ''red herring''? my english is not that good.

i just had a look on veoh program and stil cant find ep4 with english. but the japanese version is already there. i watched 3ep with english from veoh.
has anyone found the english version of it yet and where to watch?
i jus hope english version will be uploaded before next week......
thanks.

A red herring is an intentionally misleading plot point in a story that leads the consumer to believe a certain event will occur, but the event never occurs.

Media creators use red herrings to steer the consumer away from the actual story by giving the satisfaction of thinking they know what's going on, when really, they're completely wrong.

An example is Michiru saying "that preventable death" and then talking about how Ruka was gone. The screenwriter is using your automatic connection of those two discreet items to mislead you to believe that Ruka is dead and that it was preventable. It isn't necessarily a red herring yet: we'd have to get to the end and realize that Ruka's not dead.

deseipher wrote:While it's not a replacement for subtitles by any means, I checked Garten's Memento anime/drama blog and he's been posting summaries about Last Friends. Being summaries they will contain spoilers, but for those who want an idea of what's going on in an episode while waiting for subs the Memento blog is a nice place to check out.

http://www.designchronicle.com/memento/

On a side note, that blog so happens to be where I found out about Nodame Cantabile :victory:

He is ridiculously thorough isn't he? I remember looking at his site when I was at the end of Nodame. Almost too thorough ;-) And perhaps slightly fanboyish in his reviewing/overviewing style.

But the quality of the screencaps (and sheer numbers) and plot recitation is impressive.

pancakes wrote:lol you are such a hater.
At least we found out more about sousuke's past now. I can see why they cling to each other so much, although Michiru really just needs to make up her mind already.

Ryo nothwithstanding, how can you not hate his character, Sosuke?

So far, Sosuke has no redeeming values aside from the job with child services or whatever... And since they've barely even touched on that, he might be lousy at his job for all we know...

phlargo wrote:He is ridiculously thorough isn't he? I remember looking at his site when I was at the end of Nodame. Almost too thorough ;-) And perhaps slightly fanboyish in his reviewing/overviewing style.

But the quality of the screencaps (and sheer numbers) and plot recitation is impressive.

I agree wholeheartedly... I stopped reading his stuff because it was just too much, like some kinda extended college dissertation. :sweat:

phlargo wrote:

He is ridiculously thorough isn't he? I remember looking at his site when I was at the end of Nodame. Almost too thorough ;-) And perhaps slightly fanboyish in his reviewing/overviewing style.

But the quality of the screencaps (and sheer numbers) and plot recitation is impressive.

The plot recitation is definitely impressive, more so since I'm trying to understand what's going on in a particular show without subs. Somehow I completely forgot about checking out his blog for Last Friends considering he is a big Juri-chan fan, even if he refuses to admit it :mrgreen:

bmwracer wrote:
Ryo nothwithstanding, how can you not hate his character, Sosuke?

So far, Sosuke has no redeeming values aside from the job with child services or whatever... And since they've barely even touched on that, he might be lousy at his job for all we know...

I don't hate him either. I'm obviously against the abusive treatment.. but I'm not sure he himself understands it. I think that many people in that position, while utterly reprehensible, are mostly unaware of why they are acting that way. At least that accounted for a decent part of my experience in interacting with them while I worked as a DV volunteer.

I also think he has some good qualities to him too - he likes to take care of Michiru most of the time. He cooks for her and bought the lamp for her when he broke it. Sure, its typical honeymoon cycle DV behavior, but it shows he cares for her and is conflicted.

Also, I personally try to avoid hating anyone...

There was this girl at law school, however... she, I hated. No redeeming qualities, total bitch, awful person. She did everything she could to undermine others and laughed when the professors were mean to people. There were like 4 or 5 classes, I wanted to go over any strangle her.

bmwracer wrote:
I agree wholeheartedly... I stopped reading his stuff because it was just too much, like some kinda extended college dissertation. :sweat:

Haven't read his stuff, but there's a similar member in D-addicts commenting on Last Friends named Belleza. She's either a psychologist or a film analyst of some type. It's nuts :bonk:

deseipher wrote:

The plot recitation is definitely impressive, more so since I'm trying to understand what's going on in a particular show without subs. Somehow I completely forgot about checking out his blog for Last Friends considering he is a big Juri-chan fan, even if he refuses to admit it :mrgreen:

Hahah.. closet Juri fan. I'm sure everyone is, really...

phlargo wrote:
I also think he has some good qualities to him too - he likes to take care of Michiru most of the time. He cooks for her and bought the lamp for her when he broke it. Sure, its typical honeymoon cycle DV behavior, but it shows he cares for her and is conflicted.

Had I not seen the preview for episode 5, I would be inclined to agree with you. After all, the reason why he's so crazy is because he just wants Michiru to himself. But...

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I don't think you can actually rape someone and not be aware that you're hurting them. After I saw that in the preview, if indeed it does happen all the way, I'm throwing all "He's conflicted" garbage out the window.