Last Friends

Started by meoinkie2 · 11 Mar 2008 · 2,568 replies

Linked dramaLast Friends 2008 · Fuji TV · 17.7%

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5 May 2008, 08:57 #941
bmwracer wrote:
I wonder what prompted the addition.... Maybe the ending in episode 11 was unsatisfactory?? :sweat:


Spoiler — click to revealApparently Michiru needs to go back to Sousuke one more time. Eleven episodes just won't cut it for her. She has to go back, so just we the viewers have something to get upset about. I mean it's happened for four episodes in a row, so what's the harm in an extra episode?

Well, Michiru does feel some kind of bond with Sousuke, two loners from broken families together trying to create something better than what they experienced before. Not exactly the deepest of reasons, but I can see where Michiru could try to reason with herself and others about going back to Sousuke. I suppose one could argue that some of the things we do just simply have no rhyme or reason, and that our emotions and feelings can lead us to do things that we might never do if we were on the outside looking in. I could understand that, though for this drama it's borders on overkill. We get it, Michiru's attached to Sousuke, so much that she's goes back to him despite the hurt he has caused her. Does it have to keep happening though? Eventually someone or something has to give in order for this drama to progress, and we don't need four episodes of the same thing in order to make progress. Granted, looking at the preview for episode five, it looks like all hell could break loose, and we might some progress. Just don't have shocking moments simply for the sake of shock, dangling yet another carrot in our faces just so we actually tune into the next episode. Sadly, at this rate it's working. Personally, it's my want to see progress that keeps me watching. It's almost like I'm Michiru in some small way, constantly coming back no matter how disappointing things get, in hopes that it will get better eventually. I seriously doubt though, that the creators of this show would make a crummy drama to get that point across, though kudos to them for suckering me in for four episodes if that is actually the case. As for the other half of the couple, Sousuke still comes off as a villain simply because the drama needs one for viewers to get angry at. Can't call it a drama without someone causing it. To his credit, Ryo does well with what he's given. He does come off as a controlling, creepy, psychotic nutcase with a knack for wearing a suit and tie even when it rains. Sometimes you're only as good as the material given to you, which in this case isn't much.


And so end my mindless mini-rant... :victory:
5 May 2008, 09:07 · edited #942
deseipher wrote:
Spoiler — click to revealApparently Michiru needs to go back to Sousuke one more time. Eleven episodes just won't cut it for her. She has to go back, so just we the viewers have something to get upset about. I mean it's happened for four episodes in a row, so what's the harm in an extra episode?

Well, Michiru does feel some kind of bond with Sousuke, two loners from broken families together trying to create something better than what they experienced before. Not exactly the deepest of reasons, but I can see where Michiru could try to reason with herself and others about going back to Sousuke. I suppose one could argue that some of the things we do just simply have no rhyme or reason, and that our emotions and feelings can lead us to do things that we might never do if we were on the outside looking in. I could understand that, though for this drama it's borders on overkill. We get it, Michiru's attached to Sousuke, so much that she's goes back to him despite the hurt he has caused her. Does it have to keep happening though? Eventually someone or something has to give in order for this drama to progress, and we don't need four episodes of the same thing in order to make progress. Granted, looking at the preview for episode five, it looks like all hell could break loose, and we might some progress. Just don't have shocking moments simply for the sake of shock, dangling yet another carrot in our faces just so we actually tune into the next episode. Sadly, at this rate it's working. Personally, it's my want to see progress that keeps me watching. It's almost like I'm Michiru in some small way, constantly coming back no matter how disappointing things get, in hopes that it will get better eventually. I seriously doubt though, that the creators of this show would make a crummy drama to get that point across, though kudos to them for suckering me in for four episodes if that is actually the case. As for the other half of the couple, Sousuke still comes off as a villain simply because the drama needs one for viewers to get angry at. Can't call it a drama without someone causing it. To his credit, Ryo does well with what he's given. He does come off as a controlling, creepy, psychotic nutcase with a knack for wearing a suit and tie even when it rains. Sometimes you're only as good as the material given to you, which in this case isn't much.


And so end my mindless mini-rant... :victory:

I think that's spot on... I'm starting to feel manipulated by this drama as well.

It seems that every time some meaningful conversation/interaction starts to develop, it gets interrupted by Jason in a suit and tie. :shakehead:

It's all starting to get exasperating.... Time to start fast-forwarding.
5 May 2008, 09:15 #943
bmwracer wrote:
I think that's spot on... I'm starting to feel manipulated by this drama as well.

It seems that every time some meaningful conversation/interaction starts to develop, it gets interrupted by Jason in a suit and tie. :shakehead:

It's all starting to get exasperating.... Time to start fast-forwarding.


I think it also suffers from being a little impressed with itself at times. I'm not writing it off yet though - we've still got a long way to go.
5 May 2008, 09:21 #944
phlargo wrote:I think it also suffers from being a little impressed with itself at times. I'm not writing it off yet though - we've still got a long way to go.

Yeah, I'm not writing it off either... But my enthusiasm has waned a bit. :sweat:

I think the triangle/quadrangle plot could've functioned just as well without the DV angle/gimmick.... Maybe better.
5 May 2008, 09:24 #945
bmwracer wrote:
Yeah, I'm not writing it off either... But my enthusiasm has waned a bit. :sweat:

I think the triangle/quadrangle plot could've functioned just as well without the DV angle/gimmick.... Maybe better.


Well, I think there needs to be trauma. They're too happy otherwise! We can't just have people traipsing about being happy all the time - what fun would that be, now?

I agree that I don't know if it needs to be this ongoing event as it's being portrayed. Maybe one serious episode (like at the end of 3) and then it GG for Sousuke and Michiru - maybe Sousuke still tries to get back with her, but I hate to experience, well, experience fatigue from DV stuff.. that doesn't seem to be a good thing.
5 May 2008, 09:33 #946
phlargo wrote:Well, I think there needs to be trauma. They're too happy otherwise! We can't just have people traipsing about being happy all the time - what fun would that be, now?

There's trauma without the DV: the complex, confused relationships between the main players... There should be plenty of meat there to dramatize. :)
5 May 2008, 10:15 #947
deseipher wrote:

Spoiler — click to revealApparently Michiru needs to go back to Sousuke one more time. Eleven episodes just won't cut it for her. She has to go back, so just we the viewers have something to get upset about. I mean it's happened for four episodes in a row, so what's the harm in an extra episode?

Well, Michiru does feel some kind of bond with Sousuke, two loners from broken families together trying to create something better than what they experienced before. Not exactly the deepest of reasons, but I can see where Michiru could try to reason with herself and others about going back to Sousuke. I suppose one could argue that some of the things we do just simply have no rhyme or reason, and that our emotions and feelings can lead us to do things that we might never do if we were on the outside looking in. I could understand that, though for this drama it's borders on overkill. We get it, Michiru's attached to Sousuke, so much that she's goes back to him despite the hurt he has caused her. Does it have to keep happening though? Eventually someone or something has to give in order for this drama to progress, and we don't need four episodes of the same thing in order to make progress. Granted, looking at the preview for episode five, it looks like all hell could break loose, and we might some progress. Just don't have shocking moments simply for the sake of shock, dangling yet another carrot in our faces just so we actually tune into the next episode. Sadly, at this rate it's working. Personally, it's my want to see progress that keeps me watching. It's almost like I'm Michiru in some small way, constantly coming back no matter how disappointing things get, in hopes that it will get better eventually. I seriously doubt though, that the creators of this show would make a crummy drama to get that point across, though kudos to them for suckering me in for four episodes if that is actually the case. As for the other half of the couple, Sousuke still comes off as a villain simply because the drama needs one for viewers to get angry at. Can't call it a drama without someone causing it. To his credit, Ryo does well with what he's given. He does come off as a controlling, creepy, psychotic nutcase with a knack for wearing a suit and tie even when it rains. Sometimes you're only as good as the material given to you, which in this case isn't much.


And so end my mindless mini-rant... :victory:


Gomennasi, I added spoiler tags just to be safe. :)
5 May 2008, 10:23 #948
Wynter wrote:

Gomennasi, I added spoiler tags just to be safe. :)


Not a problem :victory:
5 May 2008, 10:45 #949
bmwracer wrote:Disclaimer: I didn't see anything on the official site regarding this... :sweat:

here it is
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5 May 2008, 11:06 #950
noblsheep wrote:here it is
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So ka... I don't suppose it gives a reason why...?
5 May 2008, 11:08 #951
Wynter wrote:Gomennasi, I added spoiler tags just to be safe. :)

You forgot mine. :P
5 May 2008, 12:34 #952
The DV angle should be reduced considerably as of now. It's getting boring when the pace has not picked up...
5 May 2008, 12:57 #953
WD wrote:The DV angle should be reduced considerably as of now. It's getting boring when the pace has not picked up...

Yeah, that seems to be the consensus opinion... :victory:
5 May 2008, 13:28 #954
bmwracer wrote:
Yeah, that seems to be the consensus opinion... :victory:


Indeed, seconded.

Any words on the 4th ep. subs yet? I've got a lovely 720p waiting for viewings!
5 May 2008, 13:42 #955
phlargo wrote:Any words on the 4th ep. subs yet? I've got a lovely 720p waiting for viewings!

Been checking all weekend... Nothing. :sweat:
5 May 2008, 14:09 #956
Hmm.. it seems like a lot us are becoming unhappy with the drama's pacing :( I sort of agree too. Personally, it's sort of hard for me because since I usually watch k-dramas, I'm used to getting 2 episodes a week and more content. It feels wasteful sometimes to wait a whole entire week just for just one slow-paced episode. :shakehead:
5 May 2008, 20:03 #957
bmwracer wrote:
You forgot mine. :P


I leave you to your own devices. ;)
5 May 2008, 20:57 #958
Wynter wrote:

I leave you to your own devices. ;)


And boy, does he have devices!!
5 May 2008, 21:59 #959
Wynter wrote:I leave you to your own devices. ;)

Lazy. :P
5 May 2008, 23:43 #960
bmwracer wrote:
Lazy. :P


I'm not denying it. :p

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