Morning musume...

Hanzo21 wrote:

That package arrived already? It was mailed out Saturday around noon.

Nothing broken?

nothing broken :mrgreen:


I wonder if my brother will like MM that much :sweat: :sweat: :sweat:

hmm.....maybe not exactly his style. He perfers something more Dashboard Confessional or something of that sort. Before that it was BOA :sweat: :sweat:

K.T.Tran wrote:

nothing broken :mrgreen:


I wonder if my brother will like MM that much :sweat: :sweat: :sweat:

hmm.....maybe not exactly his style. He perfers something more Dashboard Confessional or something of that sort. Before that it was BOA :sweat: :sweat:

Hmmmm.... sounds like you want to give them away already. :sweat:
But that's OK. Even Tsunku says it's supposed to sound like "noise pollution".

The 3 PV's I like the best are Sexy Boy, Manpower, and the one with Sayumi starting off the song. She's wearing a hat. It might be the Oi Oi Oi version.

Give the concerts a shot too. The Summer had more groups than just MM. The Spring has one of the greatest moments in music history when Sayu and Koharu did the Rainbow Pink duet. :D

K.T.Tran wrote:

well......the morning musume from earlier years...2001 or so look better. Some.


They still not as good as Aya :victory:

don't backpeddle ero-kohai..... pedophilia....kore ga warui koto...honto ni...

:rofl:

Hanzo21 wrote:

Hmmmm.... sounds like you want to give them away already. :sweat:
But that's OK. Even Tsunku says it's supposed to sound like "noise pollution".

The 3 PV's I like the best are Sexy Boy, Manpower, and the one with Sayumi starting off the song. She's wearing a hat. It might be the Oi Oi Oi version.

Give the concerts a shot too. The Summer had more groups than just MM. The Spring has one of the greatest moments in music history when Sayu and Koharu did the Rainbow Pink duet. :D

I'm not going to give these away.
You burned it and mailed it to me. I'll keep them.

"Noise Pollution" not quite yet with the older gen. MM girls.....though majority of the songs was a complete failure. It really seems like something for the little girls to watch and listen to....ages 6-12???

will give the concerts a try too.
Want to see how different theres are from the current Dream :mrgreen:

K.T.Tran wrote:


I'm not going to give these away.
You burned it and mailed it to me. I'll keep them.

k.t.tran : what i really mean to say to say is that aya is so far behind these gimp ass high school girls and i don't want to offend you...but i'm not in to prepubecent girls that are young enough to be my sister..

Tu_triky wrote:that are young enough to be my sister..

thank god I don't love anyone of them

:mrgreen:

Tu_triky wrote:

don't backpeddle ero-kohai..... pedophilia....kore ga warui koto...honto ni...

:rofl:

I'm not smart enough to come up with a fancy reply to that. But your comment is not 100% true. Can't say that there couldn't be some truth to it. But not here on this forum. And certainly not in Japan. It's the cuteness and purity that's so cool with the twisted dance moves. :rofl:

Actually, when you look at the target audience and high ticket prices, MM is aimed at engineers, scientists, mathematicians, programmers, people that work with numbers. You know, losers in life that have a good chunk of money.

But man, I read an interesting article today about the recent shows in Nagasaki and Fukuoka. Apparently the act is getting more risque. Lot grabbing and petting going on. :sweat:

There were some complaints about it being too sexplicit. :twisted: :naughty:

K.T.Tran wrote:


I'm not going to give these away.
You burned it and mailed it to me. I'll keep them.

"Noise Pollution" not quite yet with the older gen. MM girls.....though majority of the songs was a complete failure. It really seems like something for the little girls to watch and listen to....ages 6-12???

will give the concerts a try too.
Want to see how different theres are from the current Dream :mrgreen:

Good deal. Hopefully there will be something that you like. At least it would be fun to put on at a party. ;)

Hanzo21 wrote:

Actually, when you look at the target audience and high ticket prices, MM is aimed at engineers, scientists, mathematicians, programmers, people that work with numbers. You know, losers in life that have a good chunk of money.

Seriously? I would have thought that the target audience would have been like K.T. said, 6-12 year old girls..... maybe with parents who are "losers in life that have a good chunk of money" :rofl:

Hanzo21 wrote:

I'm not smart enough to come up with a fancy reply to that. But your comment is not 100% true. Can't say that there couldn't be some truth to it. But not here on this forum. And certainly not in Japan. It's the cuteness and purity that's so cool with the twisted dance moves. :rofl:

Actually, when you look at the target audience and high ticket prices, MM is aimed at engineers, scientists, mathematicians, programmers, people that work with numbers. You know, losers in life that have a good chunk of money.

But man, I read an interesting article today about the recent shows in Nagasaki and Fukuoka. Apparently the act is getting more risque. Lot grabbing and petting going on. :sweat:

There were some complaints about it being too sexplicit. :twisted: :naughty:

I know you don't want to engage me on this subject....in japan there is a pervasive interest in females that are all too young....do you honestly think that just because nerd ass muthf*ckers are being targeted as legitimate consumers of MM that makes it "all good."

the entire concept appeals to individuals who see such young women as sex objects....appellations of cute and purity are mere sophistry....

i can rain on this topic all dayem day.....i ain't the average country bumpkin.

Anime Dad wrote:

Seriously? I would have thought that the target audience would have been like K.T. said, 6-12 year old girls..... maybe with parents who are "losers in life that have a good chunk of money" :rofl:

Here's a repost of a good article. It's kind of funny.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/story/0,,1550807,00.html

Tu_triky wrote:

I know you don't want to engage me on this subject....in japan there is a pervasive interest in females that are all too young....do you honestly think that just because nerd ass muthf*ckers are being targeted as legitimate consumers of MM that makes it "all good."

the entire concept appeals to individuals who see such young women as sex objects....appellations of cute and purity are mere sophistry....

i can rain on this topic all dayem day.....i ain't the average country bumpkin.

Well, I suppose you'll just have to deal with it. After all, it's about entertainment and money.

Hanzo21 wrote:

Well, I suppose you'll just have to deal with it.

deal with it? i don't even consider it.....this wasteful exposition of young women is but another example of the sexualization of ever young japanese females for the benefit of a male dominated society...

if you think it bothers me you are so wrong...the japanese ever sexist society is a reality that is beyond reproach....

After all, it's about entertainment and money.

i'm too educated in japanese studies to even be surprised by this statement....it's patently obvious.

Tu_triky wrote:

i'm too educated in japanese studies too even be surprised by this statement....it's patently obvious.

Well then, it's difficult to understand your amazement and shock. Perhaps you need to spend more time in Japan or live with Japanese people for a couple of decades. That'll be more valuable to you than book studies in the long run.

Hanzo21 wrote:

Well then, it's difficult to understand your amazement and shock. Perhaps you need to spend more time in Japan or live with Japanese people for a couple of decades. That'll be more valuable to you than book studies in the long run.

you label it as shock...but it's anything but that....if you fail to acknowledge the japanese fetish for youth, you are failing to recognize a dominant social phenomenon that is ever pervasisve in japanese society...

please don't disparage my criticism of such embarassingly sexualized
attitude of japanese women....becuase it IS a reality...although uneducated individuals don't want to admit....

i can recite horror stories.......

the desire of "engineers, mathematicians, and the like" for under 20 year old talentless females..you consider that normal and healthy?

Hanzo21 wrote:

Here's a repost of a good article. It's kind of funny.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/story/0,,1550807,00.html

I knew most of that stuff already...... but that was interesting, thanks!

Tu_triky wrote:

you label it as shock...but it's anything but that....if you fail to acknowledge the japanese fetish for youth, you are failing to recognize a dominant social phenomenon that is ever pervasisve in japanese society...

please don't disparage my criticism of such embarassingly sexualized
attitude of japanese women....becuase it IS a reality...although uneducated individuals don't want to admit....

i can recite horror stories.......

the desire of "engineers, mathematicians, and the like" for under 20 year old talentless females..you consider that normal and healthy?

I'm glad you recognize it as a reality. And you probably know it's a two way street. Hopefully you also realize both that it is a different culture than the USA has and also that it's not as pervasive as the movies and dramas make it out to be. You'd get a very wrong impression. That's why I said initially, "and certainly not in Japan" wrt to Morning Musume. I seriously doubt if anyone of MM's fans in Japan are wrong-doers. A little creepy maybe. But a lot better than a salaryman buying fresh pantso from a high-school girl or hooking up with a high-schooler via Tele-Date.

I wonder if you'll come back with some "horror" stories. I've heard them too. But what I can say is that in over 20 years of only being with Japanese girls, only one time heard personally a "horror" story. A friend was showing me around Osaka. Mentioned to her that the subway system is cool. She said that one time a guy was feeling her up on a packed train. She got off in tears. But couldn't do anything. That's terrible. But one in many girls and over so many years.... we could probably come up with equally offensive stories about rapes on trains in NYC or something.

Hanzo21 wrote:

I'm glad you recognize it as a reality. And you probably know it's a two way street. Hopefully you also realize both that it is a different culture than the USA has and also that it's not as pervasive as the movies and dramas make it out to be.

if you are seemingly excusing the pervasive japanese attitude regarding the sexualization of young japanese women you are sorely mistaken...

from the beginning i wasn't even considering an opinion derived from American virtues or otherwise...

let me recite a story to you and hear your response...i had a very good, trustworthy friend of mine who is an account executive of a famous Taiwanese micro-chip manufacturer...when he went to Japan to solicit an account the Japanese counterparts "offered" him a Japanese high school girl to have sex with...when he refused with incredulity they asked him if him if prefered a "a junior high school" girl.

if you think because a culture is "different" from the US it's automactically excusable...you need critically analyze the situation with MUCH more distinction...

Tu_triky wrote:


if you are seemingly excusing the pervasive japanese attitude regarding the sexualization of young japanese women you are sorely mistaken...

If you honestly think that, you've been hanging around the wrong crowd.

See my edit from prior post.

see below