Health Advice/Discussion

Started by Daichi Kai · 19 Sep 2007 · 1,074 replies

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17 Mar 2008, 17:50 #501
monta wrote:

uh huh. but isn't that for people who actually change their eating habit once they start the work out routine? how about the people who still eat burgers and cheese fries?


working out and eating healthy is a psychological thing. in most cases, when an individual works out, they tend to monitor their diet and food intake in a more careful manner.
think about it. for most people, after a grueling workout session how do they feel after it, once it's done? in most cases, like a million bucks, according to my experiences. the workout itself may be 'hell', but the results and pyschological experience is priceless. thus most would change their diet habits, whether it be by motivation or even subliminalally (sp? - sorry).

however, on the other hand you are right. there are those who still adhere to bad eating habits because they feel that working justifies it. that is wrong and will never serve any justice.

Bottom line is that it depends on the individual and their mindset. I speak on the majority of people (according to my experience).
17 Mar 2008, 21:03 #502
tabana wrote:I wish I was heavier. I can't find pants smaller than 32 or 34.:puppydog:


Do what MatsuJun does and raid the girl's clothing section at the mall. :mrgreen:

Anime Dad wrote:

I think MatsuJun weighs about the same as my left leg :P (the right leg is heavier)


:rofl:

bmwracer wrote:
And most of that is hair... Shave his head and he'll float away... :beaten:


:lol:

I like his hair, tho. Mind you, he's no Eita.

On Topic (sorta): I didn't lose any weight in China. :shamefulcry:
17 Mar 2008, 22:18 #503
Wynter wrote:I didn't lose any weight in China. :shamefulcry:

You shoulda drank the water. :beaten:
18 Mar 2008, 00:16 #504
lol
yeah. That should have work. :hehe:
Wynter wrote:Do what MatsuJun does and raid the girl's clothing section at the mall. :mrgreen:

:lol:
Yes. Actually, I tried that. :ashamed: But all the pants make my butt look big. :P j/k I don't think I'd look good in a skirt. I'm not Scottish.
18 Mar 2008, 02:09 #505
Wynter wrote:
I like his hair, tho. Mind you, he's no Eita.

Nope, he lacks the ear quality

Wynter wrote:
On Topic (sorta): I didn't lose any weight in China. :shamefulcry:

No worries - losing weight is not the purpose of travelling!
I hope you enjoyed the food in China! :mrgreen:

tabana wrote:
Crap. I didn't know it would be that far. At that time, the rat fur will be coming out of my ears and will be the ero jiji in the series. :sweat:


You will SO rock in that show with your rat coat and ears! :metaldevil:
18 Mar 2008, 20:54 #506
bmwracer wrote:
You shoulda drank the water. :beaten:


Firewater. :hehe:

Only one of us got sick. It wasn't pretty.

tabana wrote:lol
yeah. That should have work. :hehe:

:lol:
Yes. Actually, I tried that. :ashamed: But all the pants make my butt look big. :P j/k I don't think I'd look good in a skirt. I'm not Scottish.


Too bad. Kilts on a man are HOT. :hot:

EstherM wrote:.


I did enjoy the food, tho I think it'll be a while before I can eat Chinese food again. :beaten:
18 Mar 2008, 21:46 #507
Wynter wrote:I think it'll be a while before I can eat Chinese food again. :beaten:

I felt the same way... 20 years ago. :beaten:
18 Mar 2008, 22:11 #508
From Yahoo! Health:

Eating to Lower Your Cholesterol
Posted Mon, Mar 17, 2008, 3:25 am PDT

More than 106 million adults in the United States have cholesterol values higher than 200 mg/dl, a level that's considered elevated by the American Heart Association.

Reading labels to learn a food's cholesterol content is usually how most people start their cholesterol-lowering efforts. (You probably already know that diet and exercise can also help to lower cholesterol.)

But cholesterol content is only a part of the story. Saturated fat raises your cholesterol just as much as cholesterol itself. So the foods you eat should be low in both cholesterol and saturated fat.

It is possible for foods to be higher in fat and still not contain any cholesterol. Oils, peanut butter, nuts, avocados, and non-dairy mayonnaise are high in fat but don't have any cholesterol because they don't contain any animal products.

Next on the cholesterol-lowering list are foods that contain lots of fiber. Fiber-rich foods lower cholesterol because, as they pass through the intestines, the fiber absorbs bile and excretes it as waste. The liver must then pull more cholesterol from your blood to make more bile.

But here's the catch on fiber: There are two types, soluble and insoluble. It's the soluble fiber that has been linked to lower cholesterol levels. You can find it in dried beans and peas, oats, barley, and many fruits and vegetables.

How much fiber do you need each day? The average American takes in only 15 grams of fiber per day, well below the recommended 28 grams of fiber per day for a 2,000-calorie diet.

According to the research, just 5 to 10 grams of soluble fiber per day can help lower cholesterol by 5 percent. When you cook, try adding lentils and fiber-fortified products like cereals and breads.

Check out the fiber content of these foods:

* apple (with peel): 3 grams
* pear (with skin): 4 grams
* 1 cup strawberries: 4 grams
* one-half cup lentils: 4 grams
* one-half cup spinach or peas: 2 grams
* one-half cup bran cereal (varies by brand): 8 grams

But all you really need to remember is that, every single day, you can eat your way to lower cholesterol by consuming at least five servings of fresh fruits and vegetables, which are naturally high in fiber and low in fat. Think of fiber as a cheaper and healthier way than medicine to lower your cholesterol.
18 Mar 2008, 22:42 #509
I found this information on a particular probiotic, L. sporogenes, that yielded astounding results in terms of lowering cholesterol in a small clinical trial. Amazing results, honestly.

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In simplest terms, hyperlipidemia is an elevation of lipids (fats) in the bloodstream. These lipids include cholesterol, cholesterol esters (compounds), phospholipids and triglycerides. They're transported in the blood as part of large molecules called lipoproteins.

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Total cholesterol Beginning: 330
Total cholesterol Ending: 226
% Change -32%


LDL Beginning: 267
LDL Ending: 173
% Change: -35%


HDL Beginning: 43.6
HDL Ending: 46.8
% Change: +7.3%

Change in serum triglycerides: 0%

Table summarizing effect of oral lactobacillus sporogenes over 90 days

From Avicenna's -Medline Abstract report on the "Short term hypolipidemic effects of oral lactobacillus Sporogenes therapy in patients with primary dyslipidemias" reads as follows:

Abstract Date: 1990 Sep-Oct:

Short term hypolipidemic effects of oral Lactobacillus sporogenes (360 million spores/day) were studied in 17 patients (mean age 45.6 years; males 15, females 2) with type II hyperlipidemia in an open label fixed dose trial. Over a period of 3 months, significant reductions were observed in total cholesterol (330 +/- 55mg to 226 +/- 46 mg%, p less than 0.001) and LDL- cholesterol (267 =/- 58 mg% to 173 =/- 54 mg%, p less than 0.001), The HDL-cholesterol was marginally increased (43.6 =/- 7 mg% to 46.8 =/- 8.9 mg%, p less than 0.05)

There was no change in serum triglyceride concentration. Total cholesterol/HDL cholesterol and LDL cholesterol/HDL cholesterol ratios were significantly reduced after treatments (p less than 0.001. No adverse effect was noted. While the change in serum lipid levels on treatment was consistent with regard to total and LDL -cholesterol, it was not so in case of serum triglycerides and HDL- cholesterol. Oral Lactobacillus Sporogenes therapy may prove to be an important hypolipidemic therapy after confirmation in larger trials.
19 Mar 2008, 01:09 #510
Lactobacillus?

A variant of the one used for yogurt/cheese?
19 Mar 2008, 01:12 #511
bmwracer wrote:Lactobacillus?

A variant of the one used for yogurt/cheese?


There are multiple strains of Lactobacteria...not a variant but another species...the ones found in Yogurt are usually Acidophilus...it's actually called also Bacillus Coagulans....apparently L. Sporogenes as a scientific classification is out of favor with some....but it's the same species...

btw, Acidophilus doesn't have as impressive results re: cholesterol.
19 Mar 2008, 01:25 #512
Tu_triky wrote:There are multiple strains of Lactobacteria...not a variant but another species...the ones found in Yogurt are usually Acidophilus...it's actually called also Bacillus Coagulans....apparently L. Sporogenes as a scientific classification is out of favor with some....but it's the same species...

btw, Acidophilus doesn't have as impressive results re: cholesterol.

So the one you mentioned is some kinda cholesterol-eater?

Fascinating.
19 Mar 2008, 03:40 #513
bmwracer wrote:
So the one you mentioned is some kinda cholesterol-eater?

Fascinating.


In simple terms...yes.
The mechanism by which Lactobacillus bacteria lower bad cholesterol is a bit complicated. Simplified, it goes like this:
Cholesterol is a fat and does not dissolve in water or water based liquids like blood. For it or other fats to be absorbed and used in your body, they have to be emulsified first.
Bile salts in your gut—together with phospholipids—emulsify cholesterol so it can be absorbed through the intestinal wall.

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In laboratory studies, rats fed Lactobacillus-containing milk mixed with animal feed showed lower serum cholesterol levels compared to rats fed only with skim milk-supplemented feed. After examining various possible modes of action to account for the results, researchers stated that Lactobacillus species directly eliminated the LDL cholesterol.

One gtest tubeh study reported in Applied and Environmental Microbiology determined that Lactobacillus sporogenes absorbs cholesterol directly from a culture medium.

Based on their findings, the authors concluded that L. sporogenes lowers LDL cholesterol by eliminating it directly from inside the intestines before it can be absorbed into the blood stream.12



Lactobacillus changes bile salts in your gut into bile acids. This change inhibits the emulsified form of cholesterol, keeping a substantial amount from being absorbed. The unabsorbed cholesterol is eliminated in the feces.
19 Mar 2008, 05:18 #514
bmwracer wrote:
I felt the same way... 20 years ago. :beaten:


Rice is nice, but not in one day thrice.
19 Mar 2008, 05:22 #515
Wynter wrote:

Rice is nice, but not in one day thrice.


:lol: mad respect. that was funny.
19 Mar 2008, 05:27 #516
Tu_triky wrote:

:lol: mad respect. that was funny.


Result of my PEE PEE withdrawl.
19 Mar 2008, 05:29 #517
Wynter wrote:

Result of my PEE PEE withdrawl.


Proper urination is important for good health.
19 Mar 2008, 05:37 #518
Tu_triky wrote:

Proper urination is important for good health.


I read that in an elevator once.
19 Mar 2008, 05:38 #519
Wynter wrote:

I read that in an elevator once.


With a styrofoam cup, for emergencies no doubt.
19 Mar 2008, 06:49 #520
Wynter wrote:Rice is nice, but not in one day thrice.

See what Chinese food does to you?

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