Maou (The Devil)

Started by tofuuuuu · 12 May 2008 · 293 replies

Linked dramaMaou 2008 · TBS · 11.4%

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15 Sep 2008, 12:04 #241
oh sh*t, im freaking loving the OST!! :metaldevil:
:applaud: to Hiroyuki Sawano for the awesome job!!
my fav for now: Lucifer :hehe: :mrgreen:
15 Sep 2008, 13:28 #242
marsqurine wrote:I finished watching Maou with the softsubs. I also agree that the ending is a bit off. I don't understand the scene at the beach with the inspector, about showing 'something'. I know that he probably retired after the case though. The altar should be to worship both of them right? But why does it have to end abruptly with Shiori showing her powers again? That very last part don't make sense. I can understand if Jdorama ratings will drop a little because of the ending.

Nevertheless, a very touching last episode with stellar acting from Ohno and Toma. Used both my wet sleeves and tissues for tears. Haha

There's a thorough discussion regarding the ep and of course the ending at Wolfie's LJ.
15 Sep 2008, 17:43 #243
aye, the link doesnt work for me. it says the user doesnt exist.
15 Sep 2008, 20:45 #244
I believed the link is this:

http://darkeyedwolf.livejournal.com/

A very good analysis of the last and past episodes of Maou :)
16 Sep 2008, 06:59 #245
i love wolfie and her discussions
the comments were brilliant and the captions.. oh lovely captions :smitten:
a must stalk journal review for Maou and Mawang fans. the comments cleared up a lot of uncertainties on the plot and characterization.

Naruse+Shiori = PSYCHIC MIDGET BABIES
16 Sep 2008, 09:21 #246
Sooji wrote:aye, the link doesnt work for me. it says the user doesnt exist.

Ooops... Typo error :sweat:
marsqurine has provided the correct link. Thanks dear!
16 Sep 2008, 09:22 #247
ratings for the final episode: 14.1% :mrgreen:
16 Sep 2008, 10:11 #248
wow, Ikuta Toma is in that show.. I'll definitely watch it! go Toma!! :woot:
16 Sep 2008, 11:31 · edited #249
I just finished watching the final episode.Hmmm...For all the anticipating in the past week,I must say that I'm a little disappointed in the ending.
Spoiler — click to revealPerhaps its because Tomoo was stabbed by the bespectacled guy and died because of that rather than Serizawa and Tomoo ending everything between themselves.I am,however,very pleased with the way Serizawa's father died because of it similarities with how Tomoo's mother died and the timing of it as well--soon after the brother died.


Overall,I'll give this drama 9/10.I could have been 10/10 if not for the ending.


tofuuuuu wrote:
ok.. i can move on with Ryusei no Kizuna now :hehe:


This is off topic but when will this drama start?
16 Sep 2008, 11:54 #250
crvn107 wrote:
This is off topic but when will this drama start?

october 17.. :mrgreen:
16 Sep 2008, 12:05 #251
^ 17 October I think...
btw.. spoilers box please :sweat:
i'm like the spoiler patrol in this thread (but occasionally i spoiled too :bonk:)

as for the ending, I'm satisfied it ended like that but i'm not sure at first with the beach scene. However after reading wolfie's take on it i'm totally fine with it. (do visit http://darkeyedwolf.livejournal.com/ . the maou post are just enlightening. hello wolfie :woot: you got a fan! :woot:)
Since i've been rewatching the climax scene over and over and over again... I'm changing my ratings. Its a 9/10. That scene was perfection.
About Yamano
Spoiler — click to revealhe had to become the real devil which was created by both Naoto & Naruse. There need to be a third hand of a real evil to end it all. The point of this show is to showcase humanity afterall. Its an almost perfect ending.
My perfect ending would be Naoto dead, Naruse survived the stabbing and he will angst some more but Shiori will mend him and they will make psychic midget babies :victory:
16 Sep 2008, 14:47 #252
Spoiler box up now,sorry for overlooking it! :bonk:

Spoiler — click to revealI agree with you that this show is about humanity but I also find it strange that I felt nothing for the characters;for the pain that they are supposedly going through,their desires for salvation and till the end,their deaths.I felt no connection to the characters at all and all I wanted to see was the next brilliant step in Naruse's plan.I can usually empathise with the characters when I watch dramas but I watched this one with a stone-face and ocassionally with a wry smile when a death is beautifully planned out.I did not shed a tear watching this drama even though so many of you were touched by it.Despite the lack of connection with the characters, I still anticipated most of the episodes eagerly and thought it to be a brilliant drama.Its the first time I've felt like this while watching a drama and it really is weird.
16 Sep 2008, 15:27 #253
I've thought so. I think its easier for those who have watched the original and those who were watching it 1 episode per week to feel for the characters more. We mulled over the plots and characters while waiting for the next episode in anticipation. This drama lost a lot from being shrink to just 11 episode from its original 20. Every detail has a meaning, the lighting, how the past & present situations paralleled each other, the tarot cards, Faust, Divine Comedy, and every nuances Naruse makes have a deep meaning to the plot. The audience who just went through the series in a go and just watching it to be entertained won't feel it thus the drama will become anime-like. Somehow your preference for Naruse seems similar to my attraction for Kira in Death Note. We want to see him kill.
That's why the link to wolfie's. Just to show how we watched the series from week to week.
Maou is just too fast. Some of the meaning they were trying to convey might be lost in its exhilarating pace.
16 Sep 2008, 16:09 #254
tofuuuuu wrote:I've thought so. I think its easier for those who have watched the original and those who were watching it 1 episode per week to feel for the characters more. We mulled over the plots and characters while waiting for the next episode in anticipation. This drama lost a lot from being shrink to just 11 episode from its original 20. Every detail has a meaning, the lighting, how the past & present situations paralleled each other, the tarot cards, Faust, Divine Comedy, and every nuances Naruse makes have a deep meaning to the plot. The audience who just went through the series in a go and just watching it to be entertained won't feel it thus the drama will become anime-like. Somehow your preference for Naruse seems similar to my attraction for Kira in Death Note. We want to see him kill.
That's why the link to wolfie's. Just to show how we watched the series from week to week.
Maou is just too fast. Some of the meaning they were trying to convey might be lost in its exhilarating pace.


Perhaps its just like what you've said and by the way,I do love Kira too! I've read what the writer to the link you provided wrote and it did enlightened me on some parts of the story like the lighting.Before that,I didn't really thought much about the lighting.I think if I were to be able to really feel for the characters,I should probably not sigh everytime Shiori appears?Afterall,she is suppose to represent the angel.Lol...

And yes,I agree that the pace is a little too frantic and perhaps the changes in the directors didn't help in me feeling for the characters because I did feel something for Naruse and Serizawa in the beginning and without me noticing,this feeling disappeared mid-way through the drama.Probably,if they had taken this series the whole 20 episodes,I might be able to empathise with the characters more but I think I'll need more persuading in terms of Shiori. :hehe:
17 Sep 2008, 10:31 #255
Are the subs for episode 10 and 11 out yet? Where can I get them if they are out?
17 Sep 2008, 11:55 #256
Pan wrote:Are the subs for episode 10 and 11 out yet? Where can I get them if they are out?


for softsubs, you can get it at akusub's livejournal
hardsubs, STORMY TEAM fansubs are in charge of it and they usually post the dload links at aibakaland forum or at LJ
17 Sep 2008, 13:17 #257

I just watched the last two episodes. /cries. That series was amazing, I loved Ohno's acting. :applaud: I didn't like the church scene in episode 10, that was really corny. But I loved the ending scene. :]

Spoiler — click to revealI think Kasai's death was one of the saddest ones (next to the two main characters, of course). Just when he was all happy and about to turn his life around. :/ Even though he had an affair with his friend's wife, he had good character.


You can watch ep. 10 & 11 here without downloading: http://www.vimeo.com/1728049
17 Sep 2008, 20:30 #258
had finally watched the finale!! im totally amazed by Ohno and Toma's acting!! :applaud: :applaud: hadn't finished it without shedding tears.. i totally feel for Shiori on that certain part.. :shamefulcry: :shamefulcry:
and out of breath for her due to all the running she'd done..:beaten: :hehe:
Spoiler — click to revealwhat saddens me is as to what happened to Kasai as well, it's just so unfair, damn that Yamano! as well as the fate of the Serizawa family..i still think it's unbelievable that a lot of the characters died within that short time span, it's sort of incomplete, in the story i mean.. :sweat:
im now curious as to what afterimage Shiori had seen upon touching the harmonica..could there be a chance for a SP?? :beaten:
17 Sep 2008, 20:47 #259
All in all I liked the drama. It makes me thrilled with its suspense.
Spoiler — click to revealSomethin that's really absurd in the final ep. for me is the stab Naruse got from Yamano. It's really ridiculous! How can he walk around the streets with blood on his shirt?! How come no one noticed it ?
18 Sep 2008, 12:31 #260
dianil5272 - I'm sure everyone else wondering bout that too. But IT IS a drama. So, well... Don't think too much bout it :mrgreen:

Spoiler — click to revealNow that all the Serizawas are dead, who will inherit the fortune? Mari? If she did, she's one lucky woman. Then, she will get herself a new secretary to have another affair with. :beaten:

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