Majo no Jouken

oh just found this thread. can a mod please delete the thread i made before, for this drama? (it's locked anyway)

:puppydog: there are depressing aspects and also relieving and hopefull portions of the ending. it's an ending you will never forget, at the very end it turns out better, but it's still depressing because of prior elements...

anyone have any idea what kind of bike hikaru drives?

It can be a happy or sad ending depending on how you interpret it. It's just one of those things where you have to watch for yourself. :hehe:

but you wouldn't argue that it's 100% happy :shamefulcry: *hugs michi*

but yes, you have to see for yourself! the majou no jouken writers are truly brilliant and you can see how everything comes together at the ending ^^"

just finished seeing it ... i liked the drama a lot! ...

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as for the "famous" ending :crazy: :crazy: :) i think she did not wake up, hikaru was just dreaming ... cause when he see's her awake, he goes back to sleep!

although i DO hope she did get up :puppydog: :)

but yeah liked the story flow definitely, was expected yet unexpected sometimes .. and sometimes it goes the NOT normal way of complicating a drama series... somehow always things worked out and then move on ..

another thing i liked was to see nanako in a FULL role first time, unlike in GTO where she was more like a supporting role.

LOOOVE the 2 songs ! :applaud:

I think she woke up, but still in terrible health. I think the condition that Hikaru wants to help Michi out of is to have the ability to go through a whole pregnancy safefully without affecting her condition or the child she'd bear.

In my opinion, this is what the drama is about and what the ending means:

It's about two people who fell in love and want to remain in love but outside influences kept preventing this from occuring or wanted to prevent it from occuring.

Whether it is age difference, race difference, rich vs poor issues, etc. many obstacles exist from a couple trying to be together. This exists in every day life. This drama is about age difference which of a 17 year old guy and a 26 year old is not normally accepted.

Often times when this conflict exists...many people get affected and are hurt.

Michi's fiance was hurt initially. So was her best friend. Hikaru's mom. Michi's parents.

However...in the end...those that were sad and aggravated over this relationship...things turned out in a positive way. Michi's dad bought Michi's mom the piano she always wanted and the dad mellowed out. Michi's ex-fiance was motivated himself to get back into banking and helping people. Hikaru's mom became a nurse to start over.

And as far as if Michi woke up or not....that's up to us to decide. Even if she didn't that time....Hikaru will be there by her side when she does eventually wake up....because that's the type of love they had between each other and age doesn't matter. At least that's the way I see it. :mrgreen: Happy ending....right?

:say_hi: minna,


i like this drama 'coz of michi & hikaru. make me wanna :shamefulcry:
michi love hikaru so much even she realise that it was forbidden to love ur student. she still wanna go thru all this because of hikaru. really :bow: to her.

Don't know how I missed this, but there's multiple threads for this drama....


Merging.

bmwracer wrote:Don't know how I missed this, but there's multiple threads for this drama...


Merging

kowaii na...bmw no koto :evil: :evil: (jodan :hehe: :hehe: ) i maybe late for this drama and this also the first time i saw takizawa hideaki. nice drama but im confused about the ending :shakehead: .

makky wrote:

kowaii na...bmw no koto :evil: :evil: (jodan :hehe: :hehe: ) i maybe late for this drama and this also the first time i saw takizawa hideaki. nice drama but im confused about the ending :shakehead: .

:hehe: .. another one with his/her own theory of the ending eh! ...

The strongpoint of the show is also probably to its greatest drawback. The theme of a teacher having a relationship with her student is certainly something that some may find hard to stomach, and the gloomy and dark atmosphere may not be to everyone’s taste. Just bear in mind that to truly appreciate this drama, one must watch it with an open mind. Remember that our society now is very much different from back then and would likely be as good as heresy to the eyes of the majority of the society of those days...

nice show :mrgreen:

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Michi's friend had a big chip on her shoulder previous to her relationship with Hikaru so she doesn't count...I couldn't stand her :finger_bleah: .

I had no problem with Michi and Hikaru because he was so close to being 18 years old. Had he been 12 *cough* then that would have been another story. But anyway, it was just a drama, fiction, so I had no problem with it. Besides, things like this do happen everyday. Even though she wasn't a teacher my great grandma was 7 years older than my great grandfather. They had a butt load of children and were happily married for over 50 years before one of them passed away. So who am I to look down on it anyway :sweat: ?

As far as the ending, I just took it as it was. I didn't look for a deeper meaning or anything. She opened her eyes and so I think that she woke up. I also think so because the portrait that they showed of Michi and Hikaru at the end of the series showed them without the shackles on their ankles. The shackles were there on all the previous episodes. I took it as a positive thing. You know, kind of like a "We still have alot to work through but I think we can make it" thing.

That's just my opinion though. I liked the series.

i wonder if someone knows where i can watch or download majo no joukenLs behind the scene coz i saw it on youtube but it was so short if any change i can see the full version of it,, :fingerscrossed:

first iLd like to say tha majo no jouken is my fave jdorama:nut: i like the way nanako and hideaki showed their love to each others . and the ost is really sweet though sad..but the thing that makes it memorable for me was the ending such a beautiful ending. i prefer happy ending coz they had struggled for their love and just like hikaruLs uncle said NthereLs sadness and hardships but thereLs happiness and joy in the end....

My Review (actually, more of a rant): 5/10

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I try not to have any biases when I start a drama, but after I read a synopsis for this one I knew I wouldnft like it. Reasons? For starters, this drama stars Takizawa Hideaki. Ifve seen two of his dramas and Ifm convinced that hefs one of the most terrible actors Ifve come across. Watching his acting is like watching a dead fish pretend to be alive. Regardless, I figured that because the drama also stars Matsushima Nanako, then there could be a chance of survival. This leads to the second reason. I read the plot summary. As a teacher, I have no respect for stories where the sexual relationship between a teacher and student is glorified. Itfs disgusting and inappropriate and should NOT be made light of. With these two factors already affecting my opinion before even beginning the show, I knew it wouldnft have a chance.

To make matters worse, the first episode really upset me. Itfs clear that the writers/producers are aware that this topic is inappropriate, and so decided to manipulate the characters, and thereby the audience. They made the teacher appear really young (shefs 26 years old), and immature. She lives at home with her parents, who pamper and gbabyh her, and she has no responsibilities. This poor ickle teacher only got a full-time position because her father works in the field. The student (who is 17) bursts onto the scene on a motorcycle, which an average high school student couldnft possibly own. He comes off being really gmatureh for his age and responsible as an individual. Therefore the relationship can work, right? I mean, the child is really mature for his age, and therefs only a 9-year gapc not something outrageous like a 10-year gap.

O come on, now! Ifm a 25-year-old teacher with a 7-year gap between my 18-year-old students and myself. When I started teaching, I was 23 with only a 5-year gap. I have never once been attracted to any of my students for the simple reason that I just donft see them as possible mates. I see them, really, as children that I must nurture and aid in their growth as human beings. Ifm utterly disgusted and disappointed that in this show, they try to make the relationship gworkh by suggesting that, really, theyfre equals. This is morally wrong, and illegal. Completely disgusting.

As the show progressed, however, I began to sympathize with Hirose-sensei. Matsushima Nanako did an excellent job with the character and truly brought her to life. I could see the connection the sensei had with her student, and how age never matters when it comes to the bonding of souls. But why the SEXUAL relationship? The premise of the story, when you look at the message and meaning alone, is so strong that I think the story would have worked without the sex. This same story could have been portrayed through a FRIENDSHIP and would have worked equally as well.

I donft have any problems with individuals who have a large age gap and are in a relationship. But I DO have a problem with people dating CHILDREN. I think itfs unfair to the child, because no matter which way you look at it, you are robbing that child of their childhood. When a man/woman who is in their fifties falls in love with a man/woman in their late twenties, then I donft have a problem. I can understand the sexual connection, because both parties are adults and their bodies have fully matured. But when you fall in love with someone who is still young and still has a life of experiences before them, I think itfs a cruel, cruel thing to rob them of that. To rob them of their youth. You can love someone in so many ways, and I thought it was in poor taste to make the love in this drama an intimate one.

There is a 9-year gap between the two. Ten years down the road this would have been fine. This choice was not made, and as a result, I couldnft appreciate this drama at all.

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Wynter wrote:[spoiler]Itfs clear that the writers/producers are aware that this topic is inappropriate, and so decided to manipulate the characters, and thereby the audience. They made the teacher appear really young (shefs 26 years old), and immature. She lives at home with her parents, who pamper and gbabyh her, and she has no responsibilities. This poor ickle teacher only got a full-time position because her father works in the field. The student (who is 17) bursts onto the scene on a motorcycle, which an average high school student couldnft possibly own. He comes off being really gmatureh for his age and responsible as an individual. Therefore the relationship can work, right?

While I think it's a conscious decision to even up the maturity levels of the characters for audiences' acceptance, such people do exist in the world, particularly people like Michi in the first episode, there are probably a lot of them I believe. So for me I didn't find the initial characterisations manipulative.

I didn't find the romantic side of the relationship very convincing initially, a little bit forced to me in the first 2 episodes.

I think a lot has to do with people's perception, of what is a child. Once someone reach the age of 18(or 20 or 21), are they really an adult? I mean, nothing magical happens maturity-wise on most's 18th birthday. It's just society's simple rule of thumb to classify people into different categories in my mind.

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But why the SEXUAL relationship? The premise of the story, when you look at the message and meaning alone, is so strong that I think the story would have worked without the sex. This same story could have been portrayed through a FRIENDSHIP and would have worked equally as well.

I think that has to do with the general tone the writer tried to express during the story, that it tries to confront the issue head on, without hiding any aspects of the love story, just like Michi and Hikaru didn't hide the fact they are in love with each other. I agree that the story would work well with only the friendship component though.
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For me, I like the first 2 episodes quite a lot, especially when it tackles society's expectations and the pressure Michi (or anyone of us) is under. Then, after Michi's courage rose to declare her love for Hikaru and they ran away together, I was a bit disappointed. Some of the minor characters' choices and actions just seemed too unbelieveable, the story seemed to meander without much focus, perhaps much like the characters themselves, and I couldn't really tell what they were thinking/going through. The best part of the story for me is at the end, where it rose above even the love story and really took some surprising directions to say things about how to live and carry on, and reasons to live. With this in mind, in hindsight, I think I missed quite a few things conveyed by the story and characters' transformation. I actually thought that Nanako's acting in some of early and middle parts was not that good, but now I think perhaps I really didn't understand what Michi was going through. Michi's transformation/growth throughout was really quite inspiring. I really like this jdorama a lot. I am going to rewatch this, probably another 2 or 3 times, to understand more about what the story and characters tries to convey.

For me: 9/10. at the moment, possibly more after rewatch

P.S. It didn't occur to me at all that the ending is up to intepretation. LOL
I thought Michi had really woken up. Still do actually.[/spoiler]

adinda_indriaputri@yahoo. wrote:i wonder if someone knows where i can watch or download majo no joukenLs behind the scene coz i saw it on youtube but it was so short if any change i can see the full version of it,, :fingerscrossed:

Oh, if someone know where we can see the behind the scene, could you share with the rest of us please? I searched on YouTube and couldn't find anything.

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I think that has to do with the general tone the writer tried to express during the story, that it tries to confront the issue head on, without hiding any aspects of the love story, just like Michi and Hikaru didn't hide the fact they are in love with each other. I agree that the story would work well with only the friendship component though.
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For me, I like the first 2 episodes quite a lot, especially when it tackles society's expectations and the pressure Michi (or anyone of us) is under. Then, after Michi's courage rose to declare her love for Hikaru and they ran away together, I was a bit disappointed. Some of the minor characters' choices and actions just seemed too unbelieveable, the story seemed to meander without much focus, perhaps much like the characters themselves, and I couldn't really tell what they were thinking/going through. The best part of the story for me is at the end, where it rose above even the love story and really took some surprising directions to say things about how to live and carry on, and reasons to live. With this in mind, in hindsight, I think I missed quite a few things conveyed by the story and characters' transformation. I actually thought that Nanako's acting in some of early and middle parts was not that good, but now I think perhaps I really didn't understand what Michi was going through. Michi's transformation/growth throughout was really quite inspiring. I really like this jdorama a lot. I am going to rewatch this, probably another 2 or 3 times, to understand more about what the story and characters tries to convey.

For me: 9/10. at the moment, possibly more after rewatch

P.S. It didn't occur to me at all that the ending is up to intepretation. LOL
I thought Michi had really woken up. Still do actually.

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bmwracer wrote:
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Wynter's review has spoiler too.