Since sensei has given her approval....
Enna wrote:
Sorry Kijinnmaru I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you.
No need to apologize. Life would be boring if we always agreed. But let's break this down.
Things that people want the most like their freedom or the ability to vote or have a decent place to live or raise a family, be able to eat on a daily basis ...are mostly common human interests. These types of issues stem from the basic heart and mind of most decent human beings.
Freedom, the ability to vote, desire for a decent home, these do not come from the heart of humans. These are learned desires. In the absence of knowlege of such things, humans do not desire them. This has been shown the world over from closed societies that have never been exposed to them. In fact, the statement that all humans desire freedom is absolutely wrong and runs opposite to what the real world has shown us. Humans, at the most basic level, do not desire freedom. They desire security and stability, or the illusion of it.
Interests change when the human heart changes at its'most basic level. Anger, greed and stupidity exist because some humans haven't tapped into their higher natures yet.
Anger, greed, and stupidity aren't what changes interests to cause war. In fact, the very examples you've listed as coming from the basic heart and mind of decent human beings has long been the causes of war. It did not take perversion of these "basic interest of decent humans"; the reasons themselves were enough to go to war.
Pacifism is in each one of us, we weren't all born violent and warlike, we have to allow it to come forth on a daily basis in everything we think, say and do. I am just realistic enough to believe that peace is possible.
Again, it's the other way around. Pacifism is learned, not born with. We were born with the drive to survive, and the ability to perform violence to do so. As I've said before, pacifism can not exist where the environment doesn't allow it. Those who preach pacifism do so from the cloistered protection provided by others willing to kill on their behalf. They would not have that luxury if the violence came to their doorstep. So, ironically, pacificm was born out of the comfort provided by war.