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7 Mar 2006, 11:09 #1201
˜ZŽž”¼‚Ɂ@‚Æ‚µ‚å‚©@‚Ɂ@s‚­B

would the above sentence be :
At 6:00, I go to the library. ?
7 Mar 2006, 16:44 #1202
CHOCOLATE wrote:˜ZŽž”¼‚Ɂ@‚Æ‚µ‚å‚©@‚Ɂ@s‚­B

would the above sentence be :
At 6:00, I go to the library. ?


incorrect.

˜ZŽž”¼‚Ɂ@}‘ŠÙ‚Ɂ@s‚­
ro-ku-ji-ha-n-ni to-sho-ka-n-ni i-ku
Each element separated by " " and "-" has about same length of sound.

At 6:30, I go to the library.
:woot:
8 Mar 2006, 00:27 #1203
bmwracer wrote:
Right you are, Niko.

Moving.


Hey might just be me, but isn't this topic about asking questions regarding Japanese Language? Moving this thing - which is about 'going to japan' - to here seems kinda off-topic and making this thread a mess...

Moving - okay, but now it's still at the wronge place :grumble:
8 Mar 2006, 00:35 #1204
snowmackerel wrote:

incorrect.

˜ZŽž”¼‚Ɂ@}‘ŠÙ‚Ɂ@s‚­
ro-ku-ji-ha-n-ni to-sho-ka-n-ni i-ku
Each element separated by " " and "-" has about same length of sound.

At 6:30, I go to the library.
:woot:


Though the correction is right, please be aware that one doesn't normally write spaces in Japanese, and one also doesn't write '-' in transcriptions.
16 Mar 2006, 03:58 #1205
[image]

What is the title of this PV? I just know that this is Shaka Labbit's PV, but I don't know the title of this song. Thanks..
16 Mar 2006, 05:52 #1206
I think it says something like:

under the stars
16 Mar 2006, 06:07 #1207
looks like ¯‹ó‚̉º‚Å

hoshizora no shita de

hoshizora: starry sky
shita: under :)
16 Mar 2006, 12:03 #1208
If you're looking for a translation, shouldn't this be under the Japanese Language forum? :headscratch:
17 Mar 2006, 02:13 #1209
bmwracer wrote:If you're looking for a translation, shouldn't this be under the Japanese Language forum? :headscratch:

If you want the short answer: yes.

And tabana and Terryb are correct.
17 Mar 2006, 04:05 #1210
dochira wrote:If you want the short answer: yes.

Thanks for the confirmation.

Moving.
17 Mar 2006, 18:30 #1211
bmwracer wrote:
Thanks for the confirmation.

Moving.


And moving again.
18 Mar 2006, 03:58 #1212
tabana wrote:looks like ¯‹ó‚̉º‚Å

hoshizora no shita de

hoshizora: starry sky
shita: under :)


so, it means under the stars? well, thanks a lot.. :woot:
19 Mar 2006, 00:36 #1213
Hello! I'm new to this forum! Hajimemashite \^-^/

I have to confess that I didn't read all the 60 pages that were posted before me,'so if I ask something that's allready been asked, gomen ne. but I was wondering what's the best way in Japanese to say:

"Not everybody does it."

Is it something like:

suru hito wa minna ja nai desu. (I'm at a pc without Japanese font, but romaji will do, I guess)

I can't figure out how you can say " not everybody".....

Thnx for the answer
19 Mar 2006, 02:13 #1214
X-U wrote:Hello! I'm new to this forum! Hajimemashite \^-^/

I have to confess that I didn't read all the 60 pages that were posted before me,'so if I ask something that's allready been asked, gomen ne. but I was wondering what's the best way in Japanese to say:

"Not everybody does it."

Is it something like:

suru hito wa minna ja nai desu. (I'm at a pc without Japanese font, but romaji will do, I guess)

I can't figure out how you can say "not everybody".....

Thnx for the answer


Hi X-U! Welcome to the forums :victory:


That's an interesting question... I think your suggestion is at least grammatically alright, but it sounds kind a strange. There should also be better alternatives. Translating yours would result in:

"The people that do that, they are not everybody."

I wonder whether Japanese would interpret this the right way. As for alternatives, let me see.


First thing that comes to my mind would be:

’N‚à‚â‚Á‚Ä‚¢‚é–ó‚¶‚á‚È‚¢‚æBdaremo yatte iru wake janai ~ "It's not like everybody is doing it!"


I think this expresses your example sentence well, though it doesn't answer the main question yet...



Since - as you probably figured:

’N‚à daremo + affirmative means "everybody" and
’N‚à\‚È‚¢ daremo ... nai (negative) means "nobody"

it get's hard to say "not everybody". So I guess the only way to solve it would be by making an affirming sentence, and later on deny it with ‚Ì no, –ó wake or ‚±‚Æ koto + ‚ł͂Ȃ¢ de ha nai


I don't know whether this sentence is really ~smooth~, but it might illustrate the idea:

“ú–{l‚́A’N‚É‚à”[“¤‚ªD‚«‚È–ó‚¶‚á‚È‚¢‚¯‚ǁA
ŠO‘lA’N‚É‚àH‚ׂç‚ê‚È‚¢‚±‚Ƃłà‚È‚¢B

nihonjin ha, dare ni mo nattou ga suki na wake janai kedo,
gaikokujin, dare ni mo taberarenai koto de mo nai.


~ "For Japanese, it's not like they ALL love nattou, but
it's not that all foreigners can't eat nattou either."


Well, if this example doesn't make sense, I'm sure someone could assist :bow:.

Hope this got you somewhere... :victory:
19 Mar 2006, 11:34 · edited #1215
i'm currently timing woman's island and there are names that the translator couldn't translate
like these names

[image]
i forgot another one
[image]

and there are 2 clips that she didnt translate. the clips are not big. It's like once sentence each

i want to know what the girl said (she's wearing a suit)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XGDDHS95
and i want to know what this girl said (she has long black hair)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FM4NS8WJ

and this one has a couple of lines
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=59VHH3JN

i'm sorry if i'm asking too much

thanks
19 Mar 2006, 15:23 #1216
supermidget wrote:
’N‚à‚â‚Á‚Ä‚¢‚é–ó‚¶‚á‚È‚¢‚æBdaremo yatte iru wake janai ~ "It's not like everybody is doing it!"


The first thing that came to my mind was:

‚Ý‚ñ‚È‚ª‚â‚Á‚Ä‚¢‚é–ó‚Å‚à‚È‚¢‚æB (Minna ga yatteiru wake demo nai yo.)

but supermidget's translation works as well :mrgreen:

supermidget wrote:

“ú–{l‚́A’N‚É‚à”[“¤‚ªD‚«‚È–ó‚¶‚á‚È‚¢‚¯‚ǁA
ŠO‘lA’N‚É‚àH‚ׂç‚ê‚È‚¢‚±‚Ƃłà‚È‚¢B

nihonjin ha, dare ni mo nattou ga suki na wake janai kedo,
gaikokujin, dare ni mo taberarenai koto de mo nai.


~ "For Japanese, it's not like they ALL love nattou, but
it's not that all foreigners can't eat nattou either."


You almost got it:

“ú–{l‚́A’N‚Å‚à”[“¤‚ªD‚«‚È–ó‚¶‚á‚È‚¢‚¯‚ǁA
ŠO‘l‚́A’N‚É‚àH‚ׂç‚ê‚È‚¢‚±‚Æ‚à‚È‚¢B

You don't need the last ‚Å (in fact, it's incorrect to put it in).
Also, ’N‚É‚à requires a verb, which D‚« isn't, so you should make it ’N‚Å‚à, or something like that.

HTH,

‘‰¤š
19 Mar 2006, 17:59 · edited #1217
kokuou wrote:

You almost got it:

“ú–{l‚́A’N‚Å‚à”[“¤‚ªD‚«‚È–ó‚¶‚á‚È‚¢‚¯‚ǁA
ŠO‘l‚́A’N‚É‚àH‚ׂç‚ê‚È‚¢‚±‚Æ‚à‚È‚¢B

You don't need the last ‚Å (in fact, it's incorrect to put it in).
Also, ’N‚É‚à requires a verb, which D‚« isn't, so you should make it ’N‚Å‚à, or something like that.

HTH,

‘‰¤š


Thanks once again for helping us out ^_^

The reason I put ’N‚É‚à in the first part as well, is because of a sentence like: Ž„‚ɂ͔[“¤‚ªD‚«‚Å‚·BSo I thought you could just 'copy' the case-marker ‚É to the ’N sentence, but I guess that doesn't work for all sentences.

Well :sweat: In order to get rid of other similar mistakes... what would you say of these sentences?

AF@‰Ä‹x‚݂́A‚Ç‚±‚ɍs‚«‚½‚¢H@@@@@"Where do you want to go for summervacation?"
BF@|@¢ŠE‚̂ǂ±‚É‚às‚«‚½‚¢‚ñ‚¾‚æI@"I want to go to all the places in the world!"

AF@’N‚ƃJƒ‰ƒIƒP‚ɍs‚­‚́H@@@@@@@"With whom are you going to the Karaoke?"
BF@[@’N‚Æ‚às‚©‚È‚¢B@@@@@@@@"I'm not going with anyone."

AF@‰½‚ªH‚ׂç‚ê‚È‚¢‚à‚̂ł·‚©H@@@@"What things can't you eat?"
BF@|@‰½‚Å‚àH‚ׂ邿I@@@@@@@@"I'll eat anything..."

AF@‰f‰æ‚́A‰½‚ðŠÏ‚悤H@@@@@@@@"What shall watch for a movie?"
BF@[@‚¦‚Æ‚¤A‰½‚Å‚à‚¢‚¢‚ñ‚¾‚æB@@@"Well... anything is fine."
BFH|@‚¦‚Æ‚¤A‰½‚ðŠÏ‚Ä‚à‚¢‚¢‚æB@@@"Well... we could watch anything."

'Kay, my question is, did I mess up particles or grammar anywhere? If not, are there any sentences with ‚à(+ ‚È‚¢) where you might easily make mistakes?

‚æ‚낵‚­‚¨Šè‚¢‚µ‚Ü‚· :dancing:
19 Mar 2006, 18:06 #1218
i have a question...

what is the function of -o to? i found this in lyrics so many times. two of them are :

1. sore ga kami ni somuku koto de arou to
2. yasashii otoko narou to kokoro mite mita kedo

is it used to express something that we have decided or what?

and again, what does "kisama" mean? found it oftenly in my japanese comics but dictionary don't have it listed :hehe: thanks before! :mrgreen:
19 Mar 2006, 19:00 · edited #1219
kurokage wrote:i have a question...

what is the function of -o to? i found this in lyrics so many times. two of them are :

1. sore ga kami ni somuku koto de arou to
2. yasashii otoko narou to kokoro mite mita kedo

is it used to express something that we have decided or what?


-ou to could have a two functions I think...


First:

-ou to suru/omou/kangaeru/iu/tanomu etc... ~ "about to do / decide to do / thinking about doing / saying to do / requesting to do" etc

ŽGŽ‚ð“Ç‚à‚¤‚ÆŽv‚Á‚½B@zasshi wo yomou to omotta@~ "I was thinking 'Let`s read a magazine'."
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@~ "I decided to read a magazine."
ŽGŽ‚ð“Ç‚à‚¤‚Æ‚µ‚½‚çA“d˜b‚ª‚©‚©‚Á‚½B@zasshi wo yomou to shitara, denwa ga kakatta.
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@~ "Just when I was about to read a magazine, the phone rang."



Second:

-ou to (mo), meaning same as -te mo ~ "No matter how/what/where etc" / "Even if":

‚Ç‚ñ‚È‚É‹à‚ª‚ ‚낤‚Ɓi‚àjA‚¨‹à‚Å”ƒ‚¦‚È‚¢‚à‚Ì‚ª‚ ‚éB@donna ni kane ga arou to (mo), okane de kaenai mono ga aru.
‚Ç‚ñ‚È‚É‹à‚ª‚ ‚Á‚Ä‚àA‚¨‹à‚Å”ƒ‚¦‚È‚¢‚à‚Ì‚ª‚ ‚éB@@@@donna ni kane ga atte mo, okane de kaenai mono ga aru.

~ "No matter how much money you have, there's stuff you can't buy with money".




Your example sentences:

‚PD‚»‚ꂪ_‚É”w‚­‚±‚Ƃł ‚낤‚Ɓ@@@@sore ga kami ni somuku koto de arou to@@@@@@~ "Even if it will be against the will of god..."
‚QD—D‚µ‚¢’j‚ɂȂ낤‚ÆŽŽ‚Ý‚Ä‚Ý‚½‚¯‚ǁ@@yasashii otoko ni narou to kokoro mitemita kedo@@~ "I gave it a try to become a friendly guy, but..."

So as you see, (1.) has the second meaning, while (2.) has the first meaning. :victory:




kurokage wrote:
and again, what does "kisama" mean? found it oftenly in my japanese comics but dictionary don't have it listed :hehe: thanks before! :mrgreen:


It litterally means "you", but the connotation of this word accounts for more than 80% of the meaning I guess :) In the past (like some centuries ago or so), it used to be a very honorable word:

‹M—l@kisama@"Thou honorable"

or so. I'm not so good with old English. But over the course of time, this "extremely" polite word, became used sarcastically and it changed into one of the most insulting pronouns existent in Japanese. Perhaps it would now be:

‹M—l@kisama@"You motherfucking bastard!"

Excuse the language :naughty: :mrgreen:
20 Mar 2006, 00:46 #1220
bbgirl03 wrote:
and there are 2 clips that she didnt translate. the clips are not big. It's like once sentence each

i want to know what the girl said (she's wearing a suit)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XGDDHS95
and i want to know what this girl said (she has long black hair)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FM4NS8WJ

and this one has a couple of lines
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=59VHH3JN

i'm sorry if i'm asking too much

thanks


The first video file, the girl in the beginning says this:
‚©‚µ‚±‚Ü‚è‚Ü‚µ‚½@kashikomarimashita@~ "I understood"

Then the story teller says part of a sentence before it gets cut off:
(ˆÉ“¡‚³‚ñ?)‚̉ïŽÐAŠm‚©AŽó‚¯•t‚¯‚Ì•ûEEE@(itousan?) no kaisha, tashika, uketsuke no kata@It's not really translatable since the sentence isn't finished ~ "The receptiondesk lady of itousan's company is certainly..."


The second video... it's kinda hard to hear. And especially hard to check whether it makes sense cause I don't have any context at all... Anyway what I think I heard:

‚Ö‚¥A‰pŒê‚È‚ñ‚¾@hee, eigo nan da@~ "Aha, it's English!"

But maybe she said ‚Ö‚¢‚² which could be a persons name "Ah it's Heigo!"... :beaten: I can't tell what would make most sense.

And err well... I tried the last one. But I really can't hear it, it's too fast for me :shamefulcry:. I used dictionaries to find that
–ΘA•¶‘½‚̂ł·‚ªAEEEEEEEˆ¤‚Å‚½‚¢EEEE‚¨Šè‚¢‚µ‚Ü‚·
I'm mochitsura bunta but............glad............nice to meet you

But if I listen too long I also can hear her say "One omelette please"????????? LoL I shouldn't spend more time on this. Hope you can figure it out. :beaten:

Good luck

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