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14 Sep 2006, 12:58 #1481
amran wrote:may i know the definition of inori and hoshii?
and another question...is urusai and uzai has the same meaning?


inori ( ‹F‚è ) = prayer/wish
hoshii ( —~‚µ‚¢ ) = want/desire/craving

i think saying uzai makes it sound rude
20 Sep 2006, 14:51 #1482
What connotation does the sentence ending particle ‚Á‚‚¤ carry? I often hear it coupled with ‚Ì to form ‚Á‚‚¤‚Ì, but I can understand this compound particle once I know the meaning of ‚Á‚‚¤. (a good example would be Tsukushi from Hana yori Dango's common phrase uƒAƒŠƒGƒiƒC‚Á‚‚¤‚́v)

Also, maybe this is too difficult to answer, but I'll ask anyway. I am aware that Japanese often contracts sounds to simpler sounds in colloquial speech, as well of historical contracting which has since permeated the language (the best example I can think of is the past tense conjugation, like: `‚¢@¨@`‚­‚ ‚Á‚½@¨@‚©‚Á‚½). I was wondering if ‚Á‚½‚ç is also historically a contraction of ‚Á‚Ä‚©‚ç. I know that now the meanings are different, but they are still somewhat related. ‚Á‚Ä‚©‚ç expresses a temporal ordering of two events, whereas ‚Á‚½‚ç expresses a conditional. These are somewhat similar concepts, I believe, which is what led me to this question. Another possibility is that ‚Á‚½‚ç is a historical contraction of ‚Á‚½‚È‚ç, which would bring the meanings closer to each other as well.

Can anyone shine some light on these questions for me? Thanks!

EDIT: By the way, I realize it's going to be quite ironic if the answer to my first question turns out to be that it's a contraction as well, but I can't seem to find the answer online alone.
21 Sep 2006, 08:44 #1483
vega12 wrote:What connotation does the sentence ending particle ‚Á‚‚¤ carry? I often hear it coupled with ‚Ì to form ‚Á‚‚¤‚Ì, but I can understand this compound particle once I know the meaning of ‚Á‚‚¤. (a good example would be Tsukushi from Hana yori Dango's common phrase uƒAƒŠƒGƒiƒC‚Á‚‚¤‚́v)


This is actually a contraction of ‚Æ‚¢‚¤‚Ì (or, in more colloquial terms, ‚Á‚Ä‚ä`‚Ì).
When written, you can write it as you have (‚Á‚‚¤‚Ì), but I've more commonly seen it written@‚Á‚`‚Ì.

You seem to be pretty knowledgeable, so you probably know that ‚Æ‚¢‚¤‚Ì is an expression often used in colloquial Japanese. It literally means, "it's called...", but is used more like we use "..., you know" in English.

vega12 wrote:
Also, maybe this is too difficult to answer, but I'll ask anyway. I am aware that Japanese often contracts sounds to simpler sounds in colloquial speech, as well of historical contracting which has since permeated the language (the best example I can think of is the past tense conjugation, like: `‚¢@¨@`‚­‚ ‚Á‚½@¨@‚©‚Á‚½). I was wondering if ‚Á‚½‚ç is also historically a contraction of ‚Á‚Ä‚©‚ç. I know that now the meanings are different, but they are still somewhat related. ‚Á‚Ä‚©‚ç expresses a temporal ordering of two events, whereas ‚Á‚½‚ç expresses a conditional. These are somewhat similar concepts, I believe, which is what led me to this question. Another possibility is that ‚Á‚½‚ç is a historical contraction of ‚Á‚½‚È‚ç, which would bring the meanings closer to each other as well.


This one I'm not sure of. I'm not sure asking a native speaker of Japanese would help, either. This is the kind of thing we study in linguistics (my major at university), in particular historical linguistics.
I can see where you would draw such a conclusion, but I would be hesitant to agree without some further research.
You might be better off searching on the internet or going to a library.

Good luck! :mrgreen:

‘‰¤š
22 Sep 2006, 01:56 #1484
Hey guys... could anyone tell me how to write (in romanjy and kanji) - "Creating Future"... :fingerscrossed: It would be soooo helpfull plz guys!!! Thx a looot!
22 Sep 2006, 05:53 #1485
Claus76 wrote:Hey guys... could anyone tell me how to write (in romanjy and kanji) - "Creating Future"... :fingerscrossed: It would be soooo helpfull plz guys!!! Thx a looot!


I'm not too sure what you mean by "Creating Future" (maybe Creating the Future?), but here's one idea:

–¢—ˆ‚ð‘n‚èo‚· (mirai wo tsukuri dasu)

HTH,

‘‰¤š
3 Oct 2006, 00:53 #1486
Thanks a lot!!! Well by "Creating Future" i refer to... mm... like openning new posibilities, or something like that. Is more like a slogan.

Well, thanks a lot!!! :victory:
18 Oct 2006, 13:55 #1487
What is the long form of "utau" (to sing) and "tatsu" (to stand up)? Thanks.
18 Oct 2006, 13:58 #1488
RedRum wrote:What is the long form of "utau" (to sing) and "tatsu" (to stand up)? Thanks.



if you mean the conjugated form of the verb

Utau - Utaimasu

Tatsu - Tachimasu
18 Oct 2006, 14:07 #1489
Ah okay thanks. Somehow it sounded weird to me. :crazy:
18 Oct 2006, 14:09 #1490
RedRum wrote:Ah okay thanks. Somehow it sounded weird to me. :crazy:


you're welcome.
19 Oct 2006, 11:17 #1491
What is the hiragana for ŽO“úŒŽ?

I thought it was ‚Ý‚©‚‚« at first because that's how I could type ŽO“úŒŽ in WinXP. But it seems like it should be ‚Ý‚©‚¸‚«? Is ‚Ý‚©‚‚« the old way? :crazy:
19 Oct 2006, 11:21 #1492
what's the meaning of youni?
20 Oct 2006, 01:50 #1493
RedRum wrote:What is the hiragana for ŽO“úŒŽ?

I thought it was ‚Ý‚©‚‚« at first because that's how I could type ŽO“úŒŽ in WinXP. But it seems like it should be ‚Ý‚©‚¸‚«? Is ‚Ý‚©‚‚« the old way? :crazy:

To be honest, I'm not sure what that entire phrase is.
But ŽO“ú is written "mikka" (‚Ý‚Á‚©), and you know ŒŽ "tsuki" (‚‚«).
20 Oct 2006, 16:44 #1494
dochira wrote:
To be honest, I'm not sure what that entire phrase is.
But ŽO“ú is written "mikka" (‚Ý‚Á‚©), and you know ŒŽ "tsuki" (‚‚«).


Actually, RedRum is right in that the Romanization is "Mikazuki," but it's ‚Ã ('tsu' with ten-ten, not 'su'). You can get that in Windows by typing "du."

ŽO“úŒŽ (‚Ý‚©‚«) - Crescent moon.

HTH,

‘‰¤š
21 Oct 2006, 00:42 #1495
leigh1381 wrote:what's the meaning of youni?


youni (‚悤‚É) = in order to/so that :mrgreen:
21 Oct 2006, 00:50 #1496
kokuou wrote:

Actually, RedRum is right in that the Romanization is "Mikazuki," but it's ‚Ã ('tsu' with ten-ten, not 'su'). You can get that in Windows by typing "du."

ŽO“úŒŽ (‚Ý‚©‚«) - Crescent moon.

HTH,

‘‰¤š

New vocab for me.

Thanks. :woot:
21 Oct 2006, 09:01 #1497
Ah I see. Thanks kokuou and dochira.:)
5 Nov 2006, 10:25 #1498
what's the meaning of "konayuki"???
5 Nov 2006, 13:56 #1499
Orion wrote:what's the meaning of "konayuki"???


i believe it means powder snow •²á
6 Nov 2006, 04:35 #1500
I asked this in the Japanese to English thread but I'm hoping someone will be able to help me here since I didn't get a response there.

Does anyone know what a Birigen-san is?

Thanks!

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