Curse of the Asian Man

kairyu wrote:I hear ya guys on the Joy Luck Club stuff. Someone mentioned to me that there has been criticism of Amy Tan and Maxine Hong Kingston's works being so readily published becuase it reinforces the "white man" owned publishers tastes.

Funny article, but living in Japan has made me realize Japanese women find Japanese men plenty attractive. Of course there are a bunch of "hakujin" fans, but if you live in Japan long enough you will see that there are plenty of Japanese men here women find dateable. Unfortunately Western culture has a way of making it seem like only the white male is a desirable sex object at the same time concealing how this is a cultural specific and consciously constructed ideal. It takes a lot of patroling and maintainance to only produce images of a passive immasculated Asian men. And when Hollywood finds a macho martial arts Asian, he gets denied any love scenes with his white female actresses.

This isn't to say that the white guy isn't still idolized here in Japan, but at least Japanese men aren't stereotyped in their own country.

My point is that God doesn't have it out for "us", its the white man pretending he's god. (thus tv, movies, videos, novels, and textbooks in the West depict a whiteman's "ideal" , not necessarily whats really out there)

Excellent. I feel better now. :applaud: :D

im going to be honest . i hope i dont offend anyoone but here is the thing. Alot of girls dont like asian men because theres a rumor that ya know, they all have a small penis. and also im not asian, but one of my best friends is and she said she wants to be with a white guy beacuse she thinks that they will make cute kids together. i dunno, if its true that all asian men have small you know whats but it may be a reason why they supposedly dont get alot of action.

The article is hilarious. I don't think its true. He's just unlucky and bitter, he even admitted himself. It's true that asian girls do date white boys, there are those who date asian ones. All my exs were asian except for one whos white. I think this article just brings out insecurities and people agree with it. I was agreeing with him. I remembered being dissed by this asian girl, she said she only like white boys. Then I was like ah I can't think like that I have to give asian girls credit. ASIAN GIRLS DO LIKE ASIAN BOYS! I think if that guy who posted that article will remain dateless if his attutide is still like that. I don't think he even has the gut to as a girl out. I wonder if he even tried :beaten:

farniest ting i seen all day.

TANG wrote:im going to be honest . i hope i dont offend anyoone but here is the thing. Alot of girls dont like asian men because theres a rumor that ya know, they all have a small penis. and also im not asian, but one of my best friends is and she said she wants to be with a white guy beacuse she thinks that they will make cute kids together. i dunno, if its true that all asian men have small you know whats but it may be a reason why they supposedly dont get alot of action.

LOL, I was waiting for someone to bring that up, hehehe. I think every race has short-tort men though. But stereotypes are tough to get past. I do find Asian men attractive as well as men from other races....if they are attractive, to me they are just attractive. Some are attracted to certain races (like i said in my other post).

A few of my female friends have said they probably wouldn't date an Asian guy, not because of the short-tort stereotype, but the stereotype that many Asian guys aren't very tall. I'm only average height myself (5'4") so height's not a huge issue for me. But...my one friend is 6' so she is bothered by any guy in general who is not close to her height. It makes her feel self-conscious....so for me that's kinda valid. I'm pretty sure if she knew a hot 6' tall Asian guy, she'd probably date him :hehe:

Another friend of mine won't date guys who aren't at least part Italian because her family would freak out if she brought any other race home. :crazy:

So lemme get this straight, your saying that all asian men dont have little "you know whats". i need this answer from an asian man or somone who has seen one naked.
-dont mean to offend anyone just curiose. :P

KouSeiya315 wrote:

TANG wrote:im going to be honest . i hope i dont offend anyoone but here is the thing. Alot of girls dont like asian men because theres a rumor that ya know, they all have a small penis. i dunno, if its true that all asian men have small you know whats but it may be a reason why they supposedly dont get alot of action.

LOL, I was waiting for someone to bring that up, hehehe. I think every race has short-tort men though. But stereotypes are tough to get past. I do find Asian men attractive as well as men from other races....if they are attractive, to me they are just attractive. Some are attracted to certain races (like i said in my other post).

A few of my female friends have said they probably wouldn't date an Asian guy, not because of the short-tort stereotype, but the stereotype that many Asian guys aren't very tall. I'm only average height myself (5'4") so height's not a huge issue for me. But...my one friend is 6' so she is bothered by any guy in general who is not close to her height. It makes her feel self-conscious....so for me that's kinda valid. I'm pretty sure if she knew a hot 6' tall Asian guy, she'd probably date him :hehe:

Another friend of mine won't date guys who aren't at least part Italian because her family would freak out if she brought any other race home. :crazy:

I think it was just this one guy in particular that wasn't getting any action, and felt distraught enough to vent about it on his site. Altho the thing with the small johnson may or may not be true, kou-chan brings up a good point when it comes to relational sizes. I thing the male wang is proportional to the body size. out of the 3, asians body tend to be smaller than the caucasians and blacks, so if we are to compare the body types, then yeah the asians body type is indeed smaller. As far as their ‚¿‚ñ‚¿‚ñ‚̃TƒCƒY, having been in the Marine Corps, shower room comparison musta been required, because there were brothas who would say, 'damn niko, chinese peoples d--k ain't as small as i thought." I'd be livid sometimes, WTF! Is that a complement or insult, ya know? More quick bites about misconception here:
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Another thing, smaller women sometimes have complained that to much is DEFINITELY not a good thing. SO having an avg size is prolly more of a plus than anything else.

one thing that is true is that the asian male do end to lean on the female more, especially when it comes to the household chores. Think of it this way:
an asian male has been brought up that the female should do certian things, (his mom's done it, his grandma, whatever...) so he in return EXPECTS the house to be clean, dinners cooked, etc. The asian women (esp women from traditional asia, like old china (not HK, Sngapore, etc), JPN, Korean is used to this kind of stuff. western women (includes westernise american born asians) aren't gonna put up with this crap. I know some of my korean friends always say "women in korea is SO much better than american-koreans, they are this, they are that...". SO i think that factors in as well, which does limit the "harum" quite a bit.

One last thing, kou-chan, if you are 5'4, even in the U.S, that is tall and not avg.

Well if you're gonna talk about that stereotype, what about the stereotype of Asian women having small breasts? :)

*edit. Delete, plz*

niko2x wrote:...which is what i mentioned in the link i gave out in the epost above ya. :)

Yep. You sneaked that one in just before my post....

Should we start posting Harumi-chan pics here now??? :hehe: :hehe:

I have a lot to say about that article, but I'm going to try and keep it short.

As an African-American female, at least some of it rang true with me. A number of us feel we're in the same situation. It's amazing how someone in your own culture especially can generalize the opposite gender. I know black guys who straight out will not date black women for various sterotypical reasons, or who will only date those with "European" features . In the end, instead of being bitter, I figure those guys aren't worth the time of anyone really.

But to each his own.

I know that is not true though for all people who date outside of their race. I have dated outside my race. I have to say I really go by the guy. I find Asian males attractive...they are on my radar like any other guy really. Honestly I don't think that I'm on their radar. The guys I know or see date Asian females, or white ones. Rarely do I see an Asian guy with a black woman.

I found parts of the article steroetypical...not all of any race can be fit into a category. Personally that's part of the problem with the world in general IMO. We think all black people are like this..asian people like this etc...when you can take a group of people in the same racial category and find major differences among them.

Finally as a woman who knows that she wants a "nice guy" but hasn't always dated one, let me say this. A lot of nice guys only like women who aren't so nice...and vice versa. I think that's why us nice ones think we finish last. It's not just the nice guys.

That was longer than I expected, but still shorter than what I could have done :-)

Shani wrote:It's amazing how someone in your own culture especially can generalize the opposite gender. I know black guys who straight out will not date black women for various sterotypical reasons, or who will only date those with "European" features, but to each his own.

I have to say I really go by the guy. I find Asian males attractive...they are on my radar like any other guy really. Honestly I don't think that I'm on their radar. The guys I know or see date Asian females, or white ones. Rarely do I see an Asian guy with a black woman.

I found parts of the article steroetypical...not all of any race can be fit into a category. Personally that's part of the problem with the world in general IMO. We think all black people are like this..asian people like this etc...when you can take a group of people in the same racial category and find major differences among them.

Finally as a woman who knows that she wants a "nice guy" but hasn't always dated one, let me say this. A lot of nice guys only like women who aren't so nice...and vice versa. I think that's why us nice ones think we finish last. It's not just the nice guys.

That was longer than I expected, but still shorter than what I could have done :-)

such a shame, the opposite sex of the same race refusing to date one of the same race. Altho i have never heard of that, like you said it, so it's gotta exist. Being from places where caucasians are (to a point) minorities, i've seen plenty of asian guys dating black girls (myself included). when i was living in miami, asians were to few and in between, so you usually date what was availble, and the population was mostly hispanics and blacks. Here in DC, i also see some asian guys dating black women (altho not as much as miami). I don't know if what you said are in their radar or anything, one thing remains true: guys are guys, no matter if you are black white, yellow, green, whatever. if you are available, and you will be hit upon, it's just a matter of how you interpret the hit. brotha's are sterotypically typed as 'ladies man', with the gift of gab. asian guys (on the most part) tend to be more subtle in their game. Comments?

Shani wrote:I know that is not true though for all people who date outside of their race. I have dated outside my race. I have to say I really go by the guy. I find Asian males attractive...they are on my radar like any other guy really. Honestly I don't think that I'm on their radar. The guys I know or see date Asian females, or white ones. Rarely do I see an Asian guy with a black woman.

I think we are pretty much on the same page here. I barely ever see Asian guys with black OR white women. Although I have seen Asian himbos with white bimbos once in a long while, but to me that's not dating, LOL.

I don't think I'm on their radar either. Not that I'm trying to be, but I assume I'm ruled out in most cases. Even when I was in Japan and hit on occasionally and heard comments about my looks (gaijin looks, of course) I totally assume it's because I'm different and I'm not thinking that even if they dated me that they would EVER bring me home. So I assume it's mostly a sex thing, LOL.

But in the U.S., any Asian guys, I assume I'm not on their radar. I just see Asian girls with Asian guys or white guys, but not the other way around. I can't recall EVER being hit on by an Asian guy in the U.S. I find them attractive but that's mostly just keeping my options open, hehehe.

Shani wrote:In the end, instead of being bitter, I figure those guys aren't worth the time of anyone really.

But to each his own.

Now that, to me, is the right attitude! :mrgreen:

niko2x wrote:Another thing, smaller women sometimes have complained that too much is DEFINITELY not a good thing. SO having an avg size is prolly more of a plus than anything else.

YES! Without getting into deep gross detail, girth means more than length. Too much length limits options and can hurt, especially if the guy is rough :nut: (Oh Jesus I need to shut up!!) That goes for me and just about every girl I know. :sweat: Even if ya have average girth or less, there are other ways to uh, make it worth her while.....because many girls don't even benefit from just stick-and-go.

niko2x wrote:One last thing, kou-chan, if you are 5'4, even in the U.S, that is tall and not avg.

Hmm, I thought 5'3" to 5'5" was average....at least for white girls...

I think that guy probably watches too much TV, things like MTV, reality shows and even crap like girls gone wild.. hahahahhaa

you never do see a african-american person or asian-american person succeed in those reality shows do you?

in the end. i think he just wants to get some with a white girl.

loser. ahahhahaha

KouSeiya315 wrote:But in the U.S., any Asian guys, I assume I'm not on their radar. I just see Asian girls with Asian guys or white guys, but not the other way around. I can't recall EVER being hit on by an Asian guy in the U.S. I find them attractive but that's mostly just keeping my options open, hehehe.

I think most Asian guys are intimidated (for lack of a better word) by non-Asian women. Maybe it's the stereotype or maybe it's due to the fact that the parents (usually from the old country) force that "stay within your race" mentality...

I'd have to admit that I wasn't part of that "intimidated" group because I grew up in the inner city and went to inner city schools, where there was a considerable amount of racial diversity and interaction... :)

bmwracer wrote:...maybe it's the stereotype or maybe it's due to the fact that the parents (usually from the old country) force that "stay within your race" mentality...

that's a fact in most cases, even within asia. I grew up HATING the japanese (something to do with a thing in WW2), so i can imagine what was like to tell them I'll be engaged to a JPN girl.

KouSeiya315 wrote:So I assume it's mostly a sex thing, LOL.

awww, you say that like it's a bad thing. ;) There, you have been hit upon by an asian in the US. LOL!

bmwracer wrote:
I think most Asian guys are intimidated (for lack of a better word) by non-Asian women. Maybe it's the stereotype or maybe it's due to the fact that the parents (usually from the old country) force that "stay within your race" mentality...

I think you hit that one on the spot dude!

Personally, (a stereotype again.....?) asian guys tend to approach girls in a different way, some other white/purple/brown guy would. And plus the fact that usually girls don't like to play those games...(perhaps until later on), an asian guy would lose out. But why would an asian girl rather go for a white person? We need a live one here........... yo!

believe me, this phenomenon has been debated to death in Singapore. no use arguing..... can't really find the reason. cos the generic excuse they'd give is that "i wouldn't mind an Asian guy, just haven't found one that i like, and so happens all the ones I like are white......)

All I can say is, in due time, the poor asian guys would get it, and things might change. or not....

Yes, I agree with the fact that in general, asian guys are shorter. and height is one of the main criterias for girls choosing guys. Girls would almost never choose a shorter guy. Sad .. but true. Just like guys would rather not date an ugly girl.. haha.....:naughty:

In the spirit of making fun of everything... the asian girls that white guys date are not that pretty after all.. at least through an asian guy's eyes.

:hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

niko2x wrote:I grew up HATING the japanese (something to do with a thing in WW2), so i can imagine what was like to tell them I'll be engaged to a JPN girl.

Oh yeah. Tell me about it. I received countless lectures from my parents about that and Japanese imperialism in the early 20th century, before and after my last Japanese girlfriend... Sheesh. Give it a rest.

bmwracer wrote:
Oh yeah. Tell me about it. I received countless lectures about that and Japanese imperialism in the early 20th century, before and after my last Japanese girlfriend... Sheesh.

let's not turn the "loser-asian-guy-who-can't-get-some-action-with-a-white-girl" topic into something else that is like debating which is better .. a dvd-r or dvd+r..

hahahahahahha

neefo wrote:let's not turn the "loser-asian-guy-who-can't-get-some-action-with-a-white-girl" topic into something else that is like debating which is better .. a dvd-r or dvd+r..

hahahahahahha

Which is better, -R or +R?? :rolleyes: :hehe: