Non-Japanese TV Shows (broadcast, cable, etc.)

Started by kndy-nt2099 · 13 May 2004 · 1,081 replies

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12 May 2005, 07:59 #461
loris wrote:
The Japanese portraying the US soldier as a "beast" or "rapist monster"


Hmm, interesting that I just came across this link today: Article about "Taken by Force" by Robert Lilly. Although that's about Europe, the claim is that the Americans in WWII did commit many rapes.

It seems to me that virtually all armies will commit depravities. So I feel that any decision to go to war needs to be extremely sound.


Although it was not institutionalized in the U.S. Army the way it was in Japanese Imperial Army. The closest the U.S. Army came in Japan was in the first few months of the occupation, when thousands of Japanese women served as prostitutes for the U.S. troops and the army leadership turned a blind eye to it.
12 May 2005, 08:18 #462
kitakaze wrote:Although it was not institutionalized in the U.S. Army the way it was in Japanese Imperial Army.


I do think that's a very important distinction.
The point of the article I found interesting is that the US and Britain shouldn't look back on their war history with overly rosy glasses. If we ignore that abuses most likely will happen, maybe we'll be too easily led into war. Hmm, like current events, I suppose.
12 May 2005, 09:24 #463
bmwracer wrote:Excerpt from one of the discussion forums:


According to the show last night, the U.S. had planned to build up to seven (!) atomic bombs and use them as tactical weapons in a planned invasion of Kyushu...

Unbelievable. :sweat: :shakehead:



you think that's nuts...what most ppl don't know is that one TRIDENT nuclear missle launched from a US boomer has multiple warheads (i think around ten) and EACH individual warhead has the magnitude of several hiroshima atomic bombs.
12 May 2005, 09:27 #464
kitakaze wrote:Well, this is coming from the same military that threw a party after the firebombing of Tokyo. Yeah, kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people and then party and have lots of beer. That's taking the taking of human life seriously.

A good book to read is War Without Mercy, by John Dower. It's a good study on the bruality of the Pacific War on both sides.


The firebombing of mainland japan killed more ppl than the devastation of both atomic weapons dropped on hiroshima and nagasaki....butl let's not forget the savagery of the japanese visited upon the hordes of chinese during the war and their utter cruelty toward POWs....Bataan death march, etc....

WAR is just f*cked.....no one comes out smelling like roses, kids....
12 May 2005, 10:43 #465
Tu_triky wrote:you think that's nuts...what most ppl don't know is that one TRIDENT nuclear missle launched from a US boomer has multiple warheads (i think around ten) and EACH individual warhead has the magnitude of several hiroshima atomic bombs.

Yup, the TRIDENT is a submarine-launched MIRV (Mutliple Independently-targeted Re-Entry Vehicle) carrying multiple nuclear warheads in the 100-kiloton range capable of hitting multiple independent targets...

The atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima was about 13-15 kilotons... :sweat:
12 May 2005, 10:50 #466
bmwracer wrote:
Yup, the TRIDENT is a submarine-launched MIRV (Mutliple Independently-targeted Re-Entry Vehicle) carrying multiple nuclear warheads in the 100-kiloton range capable of hitting multiple independent targets...

The atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima was about 13-15 kilotons... :sweat:


yeah we got the annihilation of the world thing down cold, if necessary...why can't we get better cell phones, in the states, man. :nut:
12 May 2005, 10:59 #467
Tu_triky wrote:yeah we got the annihilation of the world thing down cold, if necessary...why can't we get better cell phones, in the states, man. :nut:

'Cause the government ain't pouring in $300B on the cell phone biz. :beaten:
12 May 2005, 11:02 #468
bmwracer wrote:
'Cause the government ain't pouring in $300B on the cell phone biz. :beaten:


hmmm.....good point. too bad, huh? but we spend billions on education and are schools still suck ass......hahaha....maybe cuz the kids are too busy tryin' to build nukes....yeah right.... :bonk:
12 May 2005, 11:03 #469
Here's a synopsis of the documentary:

Commemorating the 60th anniversary of the end of World War II, American Experience presents Victory in the Pacific, a powerful documentary from producer Austin Hoyt (Reagan, MacArthur, Chicago: City of the Century). The two-hour program examines the final year of World War II in the Pacific, including the rationale for using the atomic bomb, and features the first-hand recollections of both American and Japanese civilians and soldiers -- even a kamikaze pilot who survived his failed mission. "In the annals of warfare, the final year of the war in the Pacific stands alone," says Hoyt. "It would be as brutal as war gets." Victory in the Pacific traces that fateful year, from the American capture of the Mariana Islands in the Central Pacific in July 1944 to the surrender broadcast of Emperor Hirohito in August 1945.

The Mariana Islands put Tokyo within range of the B-29 Superfortress, America's sophisticated new long-range bomber. After the firebombing of Tokyo on March 10, 1945, sixteen square miles of Tokyo lay in ruins, about one quarter of the city. "When you kill 100,000 civilians, you cross some sort of moral divide," comments war historian Edward Drea. Conrad Crane, another war historian, adds, "It's a lot easier to drop an atomic bomb that's going to kill fewer than that on Hiroshima."

Even after the devastating firebombing, Japanese leaders did not yield. "These men are watching Tokyo burn down around them, and it's having no effect on their position," says Richard Frank, author of Downfall, The End of the Imperial Japanese Empire. As Emperor Hirohito toured the destruction in Tokyo, the largest fleet ever assembled -- more than 40 carriers, 18 battleships, and 200 destroyers -- approached the Japanese island of Okinawa. Just 350 miles away from Japan's main islands, Okinawa would serve as a staging area for an invasion.

The battle of Okinawa is remembered as one of the most terrible in the history of warfare. The Japanese decimated American forces from hundreds of well-fortified and concealed caves in defensive lines that ran the width of the island. Wave after wave of kamikazes attacked the U.S. Navy that supported the siege, inflicting the worst Navy casualties of the war: 30 ships sunk and almost 10,000 troops killed or wounded. After 82 days U.S. Army and Marines had destroyed the last line of Japanese resistance on Okinawa, cave by cave. Victory in the Pacific looks at the terrible cost of the battle.

More than 70,000 Japanese soldiers and their Okinawan conscripts died trying to defend the island. More than 12,000 Americans died trying to capture it. President Harry S. Truman and his advisors realized that Okinawa was a glimpse of what an invasion of Japan would be like. A month after the battle, estimates of Japanese troops deployed to counter an invasion grew at an alarming rate. Says historian Edward Drea, "It was very clear that the Japanese intended to fight to the bitter end."

Victory in the Pacific sees the authorization to use the atomic bombs that devastated Hiroshima and Nagasaki in this context of fierce Japanese resistance to an invasion. It wasn't so much a "decision," notes historian Barton Bernstein, an expert on the bomb, as "the implementation of an assumption" inherited from the Roosevelt administration. "It was not a weighty matter," he adds. "In the framework of mid-1945 no one around Truman had any sustained and serious doubts about using the bomb." "There's no way that any American president, faced with the expenditures that had been put into the project, faced with the casualties in the Pacific, could not have used that bomb," states historian Conrad Crane.

The Potsdam Declaration, issued July 26, 1945, called on Japan to surrender unconditionally and without delay, or risk "prompt and utter destruction." When the ultimatum arrived in Tokyo, Japan's prime minister, Admiral Kantaro Suzuki, said the government intended to ignore it. Japan's war cabinet only began to discuss the Potsdam Declaration after the Soviet Union entered the war on August 8, two days after an atomic bomb destroyed Hiroshima. The cabinet never considered "unconditional surrender" but debated whether there would be one of four conditions. "They really lacked reality picture," comments Japanese historian Haruo Iguchi.

Victory in the Pacific provides a rare glimpse of Japanese decision-making in the waning months of the war. Emperor Hirohito had to intervene twice to break deadlocks in his war cabinet. On August 14, President Truman received a message from the Japanese government that he deemed an unconditional surrender. In explaining his defeat, Hirohito wrote to his son, "Our military placed too much weight on spirit and forgot about the science."

"Television often looks at the last year of the war as a series of separate stories - Okinawa, the kamikazes, the B-29s, the bomb," says American Experience executive producer Mark Samels. "We wanted to tell a broader story that embraces them all -- how both sides tried to bring this terrible war to an end."
27 Jul 2005, 23:18 #470
Meteor Garden _ Charmed _ Smallville ( i can add FULL HOUSE lol)
28 Jul 2005, 00:04 #471
I like Attic Cat & My MVP Valentine :mrgreen:

Gave up on Smallville...didn't even catch the episode where Clark finally learned how to fly. Lois Lane doesn't look Cute, Lana gets pretty annoying...Lex still suspicous as always....getting kinda boring. When will this just end and when will Clark go to Daily Planet to work? Another 5 yrs from now??? :bleh: I want to see him fight those real villians
28 Jul 2005, 00:07 #472
Gilmore Girls!!!! Usually can be seen on Tues nights on ABC at 8:00 PM EST. Plus the re-runs are on ABCFamily channel most weeknights. Too funny! :D :applaud: :thumbsup:
28 Jul 2005, 00:25 #473
Beautiful Days and Charmed :woot:
28 Jul 2005, 00:32 #474
i like f.r.i.e.n.d.s ---> really nice 2 see their neverending friendship
too bad the it has ended :shamefulcry:
28 Jul 2005, 01:34 · edited #475
Smallville
Buffy
Angel
Fantastic 4
Matrix
The OC & many more
28 Jul 2005, 02:20 #476
I love CSI (the original LV one). The characters themselves are all interesting and the plots are always interesting.

I also watch Cold Case, NCIS, & Law & Order SVU (can you tell I like detective dramas? :hehe: )
28 Jul 2005, 03:08 #477
bmwracer wrote:The Left, er, West Wing
Law & Order
Alias
This Old House
America's Test Kitchen

Drop Alias from my previous list... The show got tired, IMO. :puppydog:
28 Jul 2005, 03:19 #478
does this old house and ATK count as drama's?

if so, you should add BBQ U to thatlist ;D
28 Jul 2005, 03:23 #479
krim wrote:does this old house and ATK count as drama's?

Good point.

Of course, there is consdirable drama when de-glazing a pan. ;)

if so, you should add BBQ U to thatlist ;D

Is that the show with the fat guy with the tablecloth shirt?

He's sorta irritating.
28 Jul 2005, 03:31 #480
bmwracer wrote:
Good point.

Of course, there is consdirable drama when de-glazing a pan. ;)


yes, but Bridget makes it look easy.



bmwracer wrote:
Is that the show with the fat guy with the tablecloth shirt?
He's sorta irritating.


No, that's the BBQ man or something.. i dont like him much either.. BBQ is the guy that looks like the mexican cooking guy.. but had a wierd accent.

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