American Football (NFL, College, etc.)

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4 Aug 2010, 06:13 #3161
bmwracer wrote:AP source: Favre tells Vikings he will not return
By JON KRAWCZYNSKI, AP Sports Writer

MANKATO, Minn. – Brett Favre's stint with the Minnesota Vikings appears to be over after a single season.

Favre has informed the Vikings he will not return to Minnesota this fall, a person with knowledge of the situation told The Associated Press on Tuesday.,

The 40-year-old Favre called coach Brad Childress to say his injured ankle is not responding as well to surgery and rehabilitation as he had hoped, according to the person, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the team had not made an official announcement.


Yeah sure this is the third or fourth time :rolleyes2:
4 Aug 2010, 06:16 #3162
MikeNolan wrote:Yeah sure this is the third or fourth time :rolleyes2:

LOL, yeah... Ol' Brett's been quite a flake about retirement. :headscratch:
4 Aug 2010, 07:06 #3163
bmwracer wrote:
LOL, yeah... Ol' Brett's been quite a flake about retirement. :headscratch:

Hard to walk away from all those millions, that's why. :bow: Bad timing if you were the Vikings coaches, now he doesn't give them any chance to go out and get a better QB than the one they have. :grumble:
6 Aug 2010, 03:08 #3164
And now this:

Vikings' Favre plans to play if healthy (AP)
Brett Favre's flip-flopping is at full throttle, the surest sign yet that training camp is under way in Minnesota. Vikings offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell and Favre's agent, Bus Cook, said Wednesday that the veteran quarterback plans to return to the team if he is healthy.




The guy must be a pain when ordering in a restaurant. :shakehead:
6 Aug 2010, 08:49 #3165
^You forgot the part about the Vikings offering him more money.
6 Aug 2010, 09:02 #3166
Jav_sol wrote:^You forgot the part about the Vikings offering him more money.

I can see that making his ankle heal faster/better. :nut:
9 Aug 2010, 22:00 #3167
Gee, I didn't even know there was a football game last night: the Hall of Fame game...

Cowboys over the Bengals, 16-7.
10 Aug 2010, 06:12 #3168
bmwracer wrote:Gee, I didn't even know there was a football game last night: the Hall of Fame game...

Cowboys over the Bengals, 16-7.

Bengals were favored by 2 1/2 too, sigh, little OT needed at work now. :beatyou:
10 Aug 2010, 06:13 #3169
hitomi #1 wrote:Bengals were favored by 2 1/2 too, sigh, little OT needed at work now. :beatyou:

Get out... The Bengals were favored? :shocked:
10 Aug 2010, 06:28 #3170
bmwracer wrote:
Get out... The Bengals were favored? :shocked:

Yup, their 4th stringers were supposed to be better than the Cowboy's ones...maybe it was the TO factor too. :bleh:
10 Aug 2010, 07:56 #3171
bmwracer wrote:Gee, I didn't even know there was a football game last night: the Hall of Fame game...

Cowboys over the Bengals, 16-7.

I saw parts of it, not much to see though. :sweat: It's still pre-season.
19 Aug 2010, 12:44 #3172
The Red Light-Green Light game is back on again.

Green Light: Favre comes back for 2nd season with Vikings

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-vikings-favre :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
20 Aug 2010, 09:25 #3173
bmwracer wrote:The Red Light-Green Light game is back on again.

Green Light: Favre comes back for 2nd season with Vikings

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-vikings-favre :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:


So we're going to go through another retirement speech. :sweat:
20 Aug 2010, 23:59 #3174
Jav_sol wrote:

So we're going to go through another retirement speech. :sweat:


Seems so. Maybe they can save time and just splice footage of the others together to make a new one.
27 Aug 2010, 07:42 #3175
The SI website had an interesting article: ranking the greatest players in NFL history according to jersey number.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1008/nfl.best.players.by.jersey.number.00-49/content.1.html

Sure to provoke debate, discussion, argument, and vituperation among pro football fans.

In terms of quality and depth, my choice would be #75: SI chose Deacon Jones as the best, with runners-up including Mean Joe Green, Manny Fernandez, Forrest Gregg, George Kunz, Howie Long, and Jonathan Ogden. #12 had the most star power: Tom Brady over Terry Bradshaw, John Brodie, Randall Cunningham, Bob Griese, Jim Kelly, Kenny Stabler, Roger Staubach, Doug Williams, and the most overhyped, overrated QB ever, that guy who played for Bear Bryant before going to the Jets. I thought #34 had a very special aura: Walter Payton headed the list that also had Earl Campbell and Bo Jackson, not to mention Thurman Thomas and Andy Russell.
Choices that struck me as ludicrous: #87--Dwight Clark over Dave Casper; #81--Tim Brown over Night Train Lane; and #70--Sam Huff even being considered at all, much less being chosen the best for that number.
27 Aug 2010, 11:59 #3176
Johnny Olszewski was a no-brainer for "0", but I can't believe they didn't give honorable mention to George Plimpton. :P

But seriously, NO mention of John Hadl for #21!! :headscratch:

And yeah, I would put either Art Donovan or Jim Marshall (why isn't he in the Hall of Fame?) over Huff.
27 Aug 2010, 21:07 #3177
gaijinmark wrote:Johnny Olszewski was a no-brainer for "0", but I can't believe they didn't give honorable mention to George Plimpton. :P


Alas, poor George was past his prime by the time he joined the Lions. His best years, of course, were his seasons with the powerhouse Newfoundland Newfs.

gaijinmark wrote:But seriously, NO mention of John Hadl for #21!! :headscratch:


That was a bad omission, but even more egregious--no mention of Dan Fouts for #14.


gaijinmark wrote:And yeah, I would put either Art Donovan or Jim Marshall (why isn't he in the Hall of Fame?) over Huff.


Part of the problem is that Marshall is forever stigmatized for his wrong-way play. That said, I think he was a very consistently good player, less flashy but more reliable than Carl Eller, his teammate who is in the HOF.
28 Aug 2010, 00:02 #3178
shin2 wrote:That was a bad omission, but even more egregious--no mention of Dan Fouts for #14.


I missed that one too!! :bonk: They mention Steve Grogan but not Fouts :crazy: If we're talking about #14, I'd take Craig Morton over Grogan.

My favorite picture in the whole bunch is the one of Ditka. If you notice though, Kevin Butler has the same facemask, it's just painted blue. I knew the Bears were a cheap organization, but that's ridiculous!!
30 Aug 2010, 12:20 #3179
Denver routs Pittsburgh in a preseason game, 34-17. :victory:
5 Sep 2010, 00:47 #3180
The 2010 football season is upon us and, coincidentally, I just finished reading two football books: Horns, Hogs, and Nixon Coming: Texas Versus Arkansas in Dixie's Last Stand (Terry Frei, 2002); and Blood, Sweat and Chalk, The Ultimate Football Playbook: How the Great Coaches Built Today's Game (Tim Layden, 2010).

The former focuses on the 1969 finale between two undefeated teams--Texas and Arkansas--Southwestern Conference rivals who played for the national championship in the 100th year of college football before President Nixon and a national TV audience. It's actually a lot more than a football book; 1969 was a turbulent year in American history and Frei skillfully examines the game in the context of what was happening in America at the time. So not only do you have football players and coaches interviewed and written about, but also some anti-war activists, black militants, politicians (including two future U.S. presidents), and other folks who all had a direct or strong connection with the game itself. As for the game, it was a close but error-filled affair (Texas turned the ball over six times, Arkansas twice) with a social significance far more important than having a sitting U.S. president crown the number one team in the country--it was the last time two all-white teams played for a national championship. I am actually old enough to have watched the game (on a black and white TV LOL), and revisiting that event and that era through reading this book was an interesting experience.

The other book focuses on the x's and o's of football and the men who thought them up. Starting with Pop Warner's single wing system developed at the beginning of the 20th century (and still being run by high schools across the country) to the current spread offense which has come into popularity in the 21st century (although its lineage can be traced directly back to the single wing), Layden does a decent job explaining how and why these football innovations came into being. What I like about this book is that he writes about all three levels of football--pro, college, and high school--in examining how significant changes in the game were not exclusive to high profile coaches and teams. In fact, many of the innovations presented were made by coaches and teams most football fans never heard of. The book has glitches-- for example, some of the diagrams and accompanying explanations are inaccurate--but overall I found it to be a good read.

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