Me b a big 49ers fan since da days i remember watching football.....but i only remember from da time of Steve Young, Montana...dun remember so much, jus dat he got 49ers 4 superbowl rings and had many injuries...poor guy. But Dis year....i was hopin Ken DOrsey would make a good impression and play startin QB instead of Rattay....
I think Rattay needa learn how 2 throw da ball out of bounds instead of 2 da open arms of his opposing team, that or learn how 2 run for his life :sweat:
Looks like the 49ers are gunna b comin in last place, does that give dem 1st choice wit pickin players for next year??
yes...HOWEVER, history has told us that the niners somehow always wastes their first round draft picks.
They seriously need to get some O-liners. Our defense is pretty solid other than the DBs. Rumph, wasted first rounder. We got our receiving corps in lloyd, woods and battle. sorry wilson, get lost. Barlow still hasn't shown his worth YET. Rattya looks better than Dorsey, still, but Dorsey is still the future. So all we need now are some O-liners. Fix that and we got this going...to atleast .500
dorsey?! the 49ers future?! c'mon...his throws would qualify for sinkers in baseball...he's far from the future...he's now the past...and i don't see how you can judge rashaun woods so fast when he hasn't even played that much during the season...wilson is a decent receiver it's just that he needs to learn the game, but on the other hand..yes i do agree with the O-line statement..really...the team needs to fix everything maybe except for linebackers and running backs..In a way you are contridicting yourself by saying Barlow hasn't shown his worth and commenting on how atrocious the O-line is and most importantly having opponents focus more on the run than the pass game; however, by them focusing on the run, they have allowed over 200 pass yards a game. Still that doesn't do the job because either critical mistakes are made on the offensive side of the ball or the defense get's tired
Geezer wrote:I'm a big fan of trading down in the draft.
Of course, I became a big fan of trading down in the draft when Walsh was the guy doing the drafting... but what are you gonna do?
The Niners need all kinds of help.
We don't know who the QB of the future is gonna be.
We're not solid on the offensive line.
We don't have a franchise running back. (Barlow ain't it.)
We don't have a dominant defensive lineman.
Our corners have been a problem for years.
Thanks for reminding me... I'm trying to forget! :banghead: :mecry:
In all fairness, Rattay was doing okay (QB rating around 92) before Sunday's game, which is impressive considering the Swiss cheese offensive line, mediocre running game, and unimaginative game plan from Erickson. Plus, this is Rattay's first year as a starter, so it's unreasonable to expect Rattay to carry the team.
The 49er OL is so bad, it's painful for me to watch any 49er QB take snaps... like watching Russian roulette on live TV.
-PCM
hmm....Barlow 2 me is doin ok...but if he was more like Barry Sanders, den dat b nice right :woot:
When has da Niners ever had good OL??? Montana got injured alot, so i heard and Young received more Con..Cus..sions den any other QBs i've heard of :shakehead:
And i think its painful watchin the Niners play period, i didn't even want 2 watch dem play agaisnt Carolina. I'll jus pray lots n lots for them and hope 2 see some improvement next season
Montana did play behind a very good offensive line. And I'm not sure what you mean by, he got hurt a lot.
Montana was drafted in 1979, and with the exception of a few bumps and bruises (He's 6'2" and played at about 195lbs.) he wasn't injured until 1986 when he ruptured a disc. -- and he did that because of his throwing motion, not because his line let him down.
He came back two months after back surgery, and played until he started having trouble with his elbow a few years later. It started with a ruptured bursa sack (sp?) and moved on to tendon problems. Not something you can scream at the O-Line for.
As for Young... early on, Young took his beatings because he didn't trust his offensive line. He was a running QB. Running QBs get the snot knocked out of them.
The line is a problem now. But it sure wasn't when we had guys like Harris Barton, Steve Wallace, Randy Cross, Keith Fahnhorst, Jesse Sapolu, Guy McIntyre, Roy Foster, Kirk Scrafford, et. al..
The problem really started when Carmen, Dwight, and Vinny took over the drafting duties, and they spent years ignoring the Offenisve Line.
They just assumed McKittrick would be there forever.
But even after coach Bobb died, the Niners were still in pretty good shape because they had Coach Pat Morris in house.
But that got screwed up when York pulled his hissy fit and fired Mooch. Once his contract was up with the Niners, Coach Morris left to go to work with Mooch in Detroit.
They were considered a small line at the time. But for the style of blocking they used, they (McKittrick) preferred lighter, more athletic linemen.
And they were outstanding.
The Denver Bronco O-Line is considered to be one of the best in the league right now. And it's darned near a carbon copy of the Niner's O-Lines of the Walsh and Siefert eras. Lighter, quicker, and disciplined. And yes, both teams favored the cut block.
okay okay, i agree, my statement about Dorsey being the future is pretty bad. I don't like both of them either. But if I had to choose, I'd choose Dorsey even though he's been doing pretty bad. What we really need is not just an improved O-line....we need to get another coach. I'm sorry but Erickson is garbage. We use to destroy his Seahawks and now he's coaching for our team.
What do you know, Hicks is doing better than Barlow...but that says nothing. Barlow did better than Hearst last year and look at him now.
I only like Woods mainly because he's a rookie and hopefully he can become a star.
From Montana to Young to Garcia to this...we just keep getting worse and worse eh? Even the Cards are doing better!!!!!
eltinator wrote:Stuart Scott was saying today that's something is very wrong with Peyton. He only threw 4 TDs and not 5! Next week he's gotta throw 5! :hehe: :hehe:
Since they were trouncing the Bears, Peyton and Edgerrin sat out the entire fourth quarter.... :)
i love football, and i hope you guys don't mind me joining in mid-season. i didn't have time to go through the entire 30+ page thread, so i'm just going to assume that some of you guys play fantasy football.
i've been playing for about 12-13 yrs now, but i'm always willing to listen and learn new things.
we're actually in a Jdorama league...where Eltinator is first...cause hes got manning. I was second...but I got raped, destroyed, killed, massacred, decimated...by .57pts.
Manning is a God...damn yahoo for drafting me Culpepper instead of Manning.
Impression15 wrote:we're actually in a Jdorama league...where Eltinator is first...cause hes got manning. I was second...but I got raped, destroyed, killed, massacred, decimated...by .57pts.
Manning is a God...damn yahoo for drafting me Culpepper instead of Manning.
HAHAHAHA, Culpepper aint that bad a consolation prize :hehe: :hehe:
Impression15 wrote:we're actually in a Jdorama league...where Eltinator is first...cause hes got manning. I was second...but I got raped, destroyed, killed, massacred, decimated...by .57pts.
Manning is a God...damn yahoo for drafting me Culpepper instead of Manning.
a jdorama ff league!! no way!! if you guys are playing for fun, please count me in for next year! that's pretty awesome.
i hope you guys don't mind me butting in on your thread. i'll leave if i'm not wanted.
yeah, i was gonna say the same thing as eltinator - culpepper isn't too shabby at all. my qb's matt hasselbeck. (yes, woe is me) he's a pretty good qb, but i wish he could get some consistent receivers!!
i play in a very small league (six owners) w/ all of my friends, and we've had this league for about 12yrs. semi-keeper (four players). i'm the commissioner.
well, i'm gonna see what info i can learn in this thread, and i'll share any info i have, guys.
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