jholic wrote:
a jdorama ff league!! no way!! if you guys are playing for fun, please count me in for next year! that's pretty awesome.
i hope you guys don't mind me butting in on your thread. i'll leave if i'm not wanted.
yeah, i was gonna say the same thing as eltinator - culpepper isn't too shabby at all. my qb's matt hasselbeck. (yes, woe is me) he's a pretty good qb, but i wish he could get some consistent receivers!!
i play in a very small league (six owners) w/ all of my friends, and we've had this league for about 12yrs. semi-keeper (four players). i'm the commissioner.
well, i'm gonna see what info i can learn in this thread, and i'll share any info i have, guys.
Ouch you got hasselbeck. He was actually going pretty high in the drafts too. I had no idea why. I know in one of my leagues my friend took hasselbeck with his 3rd round pick and I took favre with my 4th round pick!
Anyways Manning throws for 6 TDs today. He's a one man team!!!! :hehe: :hehe:
eltinator wrote:Ouch you got hasselbeck. He was actually going pretty high in the drafts too. I had no idea why. I know in one of my leagues my friend took hasselbeck with his 3rd round pick and I took favre with my 4th round pick!
Anyways Manning throws for 6 TDs today. He's a one man team!!!! :hehe: :hehe:
yeah, that frekin' manning is a one-man army! i'm glad i'm not playing my friend this week. he's got manning AND harrison. nine td's between two players, and it ain't even sunday. that's just not right.
actually, i still think hasselbeck is a pretty good qb. can't help it when his receivers keep dropping the ball, getting suspended, run bad routes, etc. since it's semikeeper, you've gotta realize that guys like culpepper, manning, mcnabb, favre, etc were all kept. hasselbeck was actually a steal for me!
eltinator wrote:Anyways Manning throws for 6 TDs today. He's a one man team!!!! :hehe: :hehe:
Hardly. You can't throw TD passes without receivers. :hehe:
That's 41 for the season with five more to go... Marino's record is as good as gone, but no one's picking the Colts to go to the Super Bowl since their D is pretty nonexistent...
That Bears-Plowboys game stunk big time.... A battle of two inept teams. :shakehead: I'd demand a refund if I bought tickets to that dog....
bmwracer wrote:
Hardly. You can't throw TD passes without receivers. :hehe:
Dude, you call Wayne and Stokely real recievers? Even Harrison isn't one of the top receivers in my opinion. Those guys are good cause of Manning and him being able to put the ball where it's supposed to be and talking to them play by play where they like the ball. If Wayne and Stokely were on any other team, they'd be average or maybe 3rd wideouts at best and Harrison does have talent but nothing near the level of Moss. None of Mannings receivers are real good leapers either and Harrison and Wayne are 6'0" and Stokely is 5'11". Colts wideouts are good because of Manning alone. You stick any other QB in there and trust me, those guys wouldn't put up half their numbers. Unlike a guy like Culpepper, Manning is the team, whereas Culpepper is good cause of Moss alone.
bmwracer wrote:
That's 41 for the season with five more to go... Marino's record is as good as gone, but no one's picking the Colts to go to the Super Bowl since their D is pretty nonexistent...
AHAHAHA, Marino was all red today during the half time show too :hehe: :hehe:
The Colts def has actually been playing a lot better lately. 9 pts for Detroit today, they held Chicago to 10 (no surprise), but they did stop Carr and Houston to only 14 so it's picking up. But I don't think they'll win it simply cause Tom Brady and the Pats play in the AFC and they won't beat them in the playoffs. Unless the Pats get knocked out by another team or if Brady gets hurt.
eltinator wrote:Dude, you call Wayne and Stokely real recievers? Even Harrison isn't one of the top receivers in my opinion. Those guys are good cause of Manning and him being able to put the ball where it's supposed to be and talking to them play by play where they like the ball. If Wayne and Stokely were on any other team, they'd be average or maybe 3rd wideouts at best and Harrison does have talent but nothing near the level of Moss. None of Mannings receivers are real good leapers either and Harrison and Wayne are 6'0" and Stokely is 5'11". Colts wideouts are good because of Manning alone. You stick any other QB in there and trust me, those guys wouldn't put up half their numbers. Unlike a guy like Culpepper, Manning is the team, whereas Culpepper is good cause of Moss alone.
I'm just saying the idea of a "one man team" is a ridiculous... I'm not discounting Manning's accuracy, but he still has to throw the ball to somebody who runs their routes correctly and with decent hands... In fact it's great that Harrison and Stokely aren't "top" receivers, 'cause the D just sags on them, making them more effective and dangerous.
bmwracer wrote:
I'm just saying the idea of a "one man team" is a ridiculous... I'm not discounting Manning's accuracy, but he still has to throw the ball to somebody who runs their routes correctly and with decent hands... In fact it's great that Harrison and Stokely aren't "top" receivers, 'cause the D just sags on them, making them more effective and dangerous.
Well I don't mean peyton playing football against 50 other people but just that peyton is the team. They've pretty much got fillers in other positions but peyton is the reason why that team is where its at. The only way Indy will win the superbowl is if peyton throws for 5-7 TDs in every game of the playoffs. Unless that defense gets better but I really do believe that if peyton throws for that many TDs every game, they'd be really hard to beat. 7 TDs is 35 points man and add on a few field goals and you're over 40. It's not like every single football team can score over 40 points against a crappy defense. So, yes, indy can win a superbowl on peyton alone, but it will be REALLY hard.
Bottom line... put Peyton Manning behind the Niner's Offensive line and you've got one less Manning in the world to worry about.
Funny thing was... with all the National pub that Manning got in college, Tenn. was never able to get to the big one with him at QB.
But the year after he left, T Martin took basically the same team all the way to the National Championship.
Manning is tall, strong, has a good accurate arm, and he knows the game. He's smart. And he's slow.
But he's got a very good offensive line in front of him... a solid running game to depend upon, and if you don't think Harrison is a great reciever you're just nuts.
I never slam Manning. There's no point. He's really good.
But don't forget, the Colts emptied their bank account into the offense (at the expense of the defense) to surround Manning with the best players they could get.
Geezer wrote:Bottom line... put Peyton Manning behind the Niner's Offensive line and you've got one less Manning in the world to worry about.
Funny thing was... with all the National pub that Manning got in college, Tenn. was never able to get to the big one with him at QB.
But the year after he left, T Martin took basically the same team all the way to the National Championship.
Manning is tall, strong, has a good accurate arm, and he knows the game. He's smart. And he's slow.
But he's got a very good offensive line in front of him... a solid running game to depend upon, and if you don't think Harrison is a great reciever you're just nuts.
I never slam Manning. There's no point. He's really good.
But don't forget, the Colts emptied their bank account into the offense (at the expense of the defense) to surround Manning with the best players they could get.
Yea I know Harrison is good but put him with a QB like Rattay and those numbers go straight down. Not to take anything away from James or Harrison though, they're still great players but the running game is instantly opened up with Manning at QB. Every defense knows they gotta play pass against the Colts and that's one reason why James has had so much success. Put him with an offensive line like what LT has and I guarantee you he wouldn't be nearly as effective. Manning is simply one of those guys that make everyone else better. There are guys in this league that are good cause they make others better and guys who are good cause of other players.
ehh..it's somewhat true...Brandon Stokely and Reggie Wayne do look better than they really are because of Peyton but that doesn't mean Stokely and Wayne are bad receivers. I would love to have those two guys on my team as my possession receivers. Culpepper on the other hand has improved in this season. He's actually making less bonehead plays and more accurate reads but he still has a sense of his old self. There are players in the league that seperate the good ones from the bad, and those players are the ones who are able to step up and take the ball and do something with it, which is not necessarily a one-man team. Even some of the Dallas Cowboys' O-line during the Cowboy dynasty in the 90s said that Emmitt Smith made them look good. You still have to give credit to the Colts receivers and O-line. They are decent and I would choose them over most receiving corps and O-lines. It is also true that Manning's passing game opens up up the gaps for Edgerrin James, but Edgerrin James is one of those smart players who can make something out of nothing.
Anyways...battle of the fallen champions this sunday! Miami vs. 49ers....hopefully both teams won't blow their first round picks on crap like Matt Leinert, who happens to be overrated
eltinator wrote:Well I don't mean peyton playing football against 50 other people but just that peyton is the team.
Okay, I agree, but that's different than saying Manning is a one man team...
7 TDs is 35 points man and add on a few field goals and you're over 40.
Seven TDs is 42 points, Elt. :hehe:
What are they teaching you in school? :hehe:
It's not like every single football team can score over 40 points against a crappy defense. So, yes, indy can win a superbowl on peyton alone, but it will be REALLY hard.
I think MAKING it to the Super Bowl will be hard for the Colts, 'cause against tougher Ds, Manning's not likely to throw 4-6 TDs in the game.... I mean, I'd love to see the Colts there, but will their D hold up against the elite teams??
bmwracer wrote:
Okay, I agree, but that's different than saying Manning is a one man team...
When I said one man team, I meant it as an expression :P
bmwracer wrote:
Seven TDs is 42 points, Elt.
What are they teaching you in school?
My bad, I must have been counting 5 pts a TD. No idea why either. Well that just adds to my case.
bmwracer wrote:
I think MAKING it to the Super Bowl will be hard for the Colts, 'cause against tougher Ds, Manning's not likely to throw 4-6 TDs in the game.... I mean, I'd love to see the Colts there, but will their D hold up against the elite teams??
Odds are they won't win cause Manning won't be throwing 5 TDs against the likes of the Pats, Steelers, or even Ravens but they're still the greatest show on the road :hehe: :hehe:
eltinator wrote:When I said one man team, I meant it as an expression
Of course.
My bad, I must have been counting 5 pts a TD. No idea why either. Well that just adds to my case.
All the more reason to be a sushi chef rather than an EE.
Odds are they won't win cause Manning won't be throwing 5 TDs against the likes of the Pats, Steelers, or even Ravens but they're still the greatest show on the road :hehe: :hehe:
If Manning's not throwing TD passes, that show comes to a screeching halt...
Look at that piss-awful Bears-Plowboys game... I was hoping for a power outage... :hehe: :hehe:
well, manning is a great qb, but like others have said, everyone on the team helps each other out. another good thing to point out is team chemistry and momentum. i don't believe the steelers are THAT great, and i don't believe that the chiefs are THAT bad. take a look at minn last year. all that talent, but stick them w/ about three losses in a row, and suddenly, they're questioning everything they do. i believe they dropped like eight games after that.
what i'm getting at is: i'd like to see what happens if peyton threw for four td's a game, but they lose the next three in a row. i wonder how the colts offense would look after that. it'd be interesting to see.
bmwracer wrote:Was great to see the Chargers beat the Chiefs, 34-31, and maintain a share of the division lead with the Broncos who play the Raiders tonight... :)
Man, I wish they televised that Browns-Bengals shootout... It woulda been better than the Giants-Eagles game which was a total bore...
And the Pats-Ravens game was no better...
Yea I wanted to see that one. I ended up switching channels between scouting Eli play and watching LT rack up fantasy points. Poor Eli, he's got some ways to go before he gets to his brother's level.
You guys got the Pats-Ravens game in LA? We didn't get that one here :beaten:
OMG what a Sunday night game!!! I thought it was gonna be like a 3-0 game but damn so much offense. 4 TDs by Collins to Porter (3) and Curry (1) and I had them both starting at WR for my team! WOO HOO!!! And then the big block at the end of the game to seal the victory!!!! DIE BRONCOS DIE!!!! :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: