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eltinator wrote:Oh yea that's definately one for the ages. Given that pretty much all big men foul out on a nightly basis :hehe: :hehe:

But weren't the refs back then a bit more lenient to contact than they are nowadays?

Actually, I think it's the other way around: nobody flopped back then... When you got charged or blocked, you paid for it... :hehe:

Just like football: you give a QB a dirty look and it's a personal foul... Back then, you could rip the QBs head off... :sweat:

K.T.Tran wrote:ummm...How many times has Farve and da Packers lost at home??? i dun recall...all i no is dat farve and da packs are pretty much invincible playin at home in da cold weather

I think they are 37-1 with the temperature lower than 35 degree at Lambeau Field.

K.T.Tran wrote:Ya amazing how 20 yrs ago da 49ers was like da best team in da NFL and now they're da worst, AIYA!!!! :bleh:

The Niners in the late 70s weren't exactly top of their class in the league either (both seasons had 2 wins). It's looking like it's going to be a 1-win season (maybe 2, but I'm not counting on anything). Let's see what they do now.

dochira wrote:The Niners in the late 70s weren't exactly top of their class in the league either (both seasons had 2 wins

Yup. Until they got some guy named Montana... :D

bmwracer wrote:
Yup. Until they got some guy named Montana... :D

Oh, yes, I neglected to include that pertinent information. Thanks, BMW. :woot:

dochira wrote:
Oh, yes, I neglected to include that pertinent information. Thanks, BMW. :woot:

Always glad to help. :)

bmwracer wrote:
Always glad to help. :)

As usual. :say_thanx: And to think, the Catch (Montana to Clark) was the one of the catalysts for the team of the decade. Oh and going 13-3 after a 6-10 season didn't hurt either. :sweat:

dochira wrote:As usual. :say_thanx: And to think, the Catch (Montana to Clark) was the one of the catalysts for the team of the decade. Oh and going 13-3 after a 6-10 season didn't hurt either. :sweat:

Oh man, The Catch... I was watching the game in a department store with about 20-30 other people watching when Clark made that catch... The cheers reverberated through the store...

Nothing like seeing the despised Plowboys get beat. :D

bmwracer wrote:
Nothing like seeing the despised Plowboys get beat. :D

Especially on home turf... :woot: I don't despise the 'boys that much, except when they were referred to as "America's Team". Yeah, right. I'm part of America and I don't think of them as my team... :grumble:

The Niners were pretty good in the early 70's. They won 3 NFC West Titles with Brodie under Center.

But they kept running into the Cowboys in the playoffs, and the Cowboys stomped them.

The team started going down hill around '76, and then that idiot Joe Thomas traded away the team's future to get a tired, worn out old running back named O.J. Simpson. And Simpson was done by the time he got here.

The Niners went 2 and 14 in '78.

And after hiring Walsh in '79, they went 2 and 14 again.

But as BMW said... in '79 Walsh picked up a QB in the third round of the draft... that Montana fella. (Montana got some spot duty in garbage time in '79. Started 7 of the last 10 games in '80. And became the full time starter in '81.)

But things really turned around when, in 1981 Walsh drafted Ronnie Lott (CB) in the first round, Eric Wright (CB) in the second round, and Carlton Williamson (SS) in the third round.

They put those three rookies on the field with second year Safety, Dwight Hicks... and can you say the birth of an era?

It also didn't hurt that Walsh made a few very good trades (remember, this was before free agency), and came up with veterans like Hacksaw Reynolds, and Fred Dean.

People always remember the Niners of the 80s and early 90s as a great passing team. But what they seem to forget is that in the good years, the Niners always had a top five running game, and a top five Defense.

The catch.

I love pulling out that game and watching it again and again.

The tape's getting pretty faded these days, but...

Put it this way. I still have that game. But I don't have a copy of the '81 Superbowl.

The Niner Dallas game in '81 was the real Superbowl. (For me, anyway.)

Geezer wrote:the Niners always had a top five running game

Roger Craig and Wendell Tyler come to mind... :)

Geezer wrote:The catch.

I love pulling out that game and watching it again and again.

The tape's getting pretty faded these days, but...

Put it this way. I still have that game. But I don't have a copy of the '81 Superbowl.

The Niner Dallas game in '81 was the real Superbowl. (For me, anyway.)

Transfer it to disc, bud. :D

BMW

Yeah.

Wendell and Roger.

Roger and Tom. (My all time favorite backfield)

Ricky and Bar None.

Football does not like one dimensional teams, or one man bands.

Oh, I am going to transfer it.

Don't know why I haven't yet. Transfering my niner games to disc was the reason I got the system I got in the first place.

But like most of the simple minded, I'm easily distracted.

WOW so much bout da 49ers i didn't know bout, till now.
Thanks for the history guys :woot:

dochira wrote:As usual. :say_thanx: And to think, the Catch (Montana to Clark) was the one of the catalysts for the team of the decade. Oh and going 13-3 after a 6-10 season didn't hurt either. :sweat:

aw, man. gotta mention that 'catch'. :bleh:

well, that's why i'm not a niner fan AT ALL. i was watching that game and my heart just dropped. most people felt that was the end, but if i remember correctly, dallas still had about 40secs left, and it only ended when danny white fumbled a snap. :banghead:

i've gotta tell you that i've got a lot of respect for you guys. back in the 80s, everyone had a niner cap, shirt, jersey, jacket, etc. now, i don't even see one. at least you guys still stand by your team - as i stand by mine. through thick and thin, right?

as for the niners in the 80s, i don't believe the most powerful weapon was montana, craig, rice, lott, brent jones, steve young or any of those. it was bill walsh. i mean, the idea of short-ydg passing to control the game is still being used today. i'm not saying that all the aforementioned didn't have a factor, but my feeling is that bill walsh could have been successful w/o joe, roger, jerry, etc. i don't think the niners would've been as successful w/ all those guys - but sans bill walsh.

jholic wrote:
i've gotta tell you that i've got a lot of respect for you guys. back in the 80s, everyone had a niner cap, shirt, jersey, jacket, etc. now, i don't even see one. at least you guys still stand by your team - as i stand by mine. through thick and thin, right?

It sure is difficult...the laughs and the stares you get. :sweat: And the head scratching. The harder one is the Warriors. I remember the team that went to the playoffs. I wasn't around for Rick Barry and the championship team, but for the last decade, it's been tough.

jholic wrote:
as for the niners in the 80s, i don't believe the most powerful weapon was montana, craig, rice, lott, brent jones, steve young or any of those. it was bill walsh. i mean, the idea of short-ydg passing to control the game is still being used today. i'm not saying that all the aforementioned didn't have a factor, but my feeling is that bill walsh could have been successful w/o joe, roger, jerry, etc. i don't think the niners would've been as successful w/ all those guys - but sans bill walsh.

Yup, it's amazing how the West Coast Offense has spread because of all the coaches under Walsh. Mariuchi, Holmgren, etc...

Off topic, but there's also another "Catch" that hails from SF, albeit by way of New York: Willie Mays' amazing over the head catch in the 1954 World Series off of Cleveland hitter Vic Wertz.... :D

jholic wrote:
aw, man. gotta mention that 'catch'. :bleh:

well, that's why i'm not a niner fan AT ALL. i was watching that game and my heart just dropped. most people felt that was the end, but if i remember correctly, dallas still had about 40secs left, and it only ended when danny white fumbled a snap. :banghead:

.

Okay, so I'm a little obsessed. So I pulled the tape out and looked.

"THE CATCH" made the score 28 to 27, Niners.

After the kickoff, Dallas had the ball on their own 25 with 47 seconds left on the clock.

On the first play from scrimmage, Danny White threw an absolutely beautiful pass to Drew Pearson who broke a couple of tackles, and got the ball all the way down to the Niner 45. At the last moment, Eric Wright caught him by the back of the jersey and dragged him down.

On Dallas's second play from scrimmage, with 40 seconds to go, from the Niner 45, White took the snap, dtropped back, and Niner Defensive Tackle Lawrence Pillars broke through the middle, and swatted the ball out of White's hands, as he was putting his helmet square into White's chest, and the ball rolled into the line. (White didn't fumble the snap. It was torn out of his hands while he was being sacked.)

Niner Defensive lineman Jim Stuckey came out of the pile with the ball.

Then the Niners ran out the clock.

Oh, and I agree with you jholic. Walsh was the wellspring for all the Niner greatness.