American Football (NFL, College, etc.)

Started by Geezer · 17 Aug 2004 · 4,773 replies

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18 Dec 2004, 06:50 #761
jholic wrote:for those of you who play fantasy football, remember: there are games on saturday! :woot:


yup playoff week in all my leagues! :D Jdorama fantasy playoffs started last week though. Only 4 teams left!!! :woot:
20 Dec 2004, 04:15 #762
Saturday:

Pittsburgh barely beats the Giants, 33-30.

Atlanta squeaks by Carolina in OT, 34-31.

Niners lose again, 26-16 to the 'Skins.
20 Dec 2004, 05:53 #763
*sigh* dallas finds a way to lose again. due to lack of offense once again. so what else is new. the only bright point is that julius jones does look pretty good.

hey, anyone's seen that peyton manning commercial ('cut that meat, cut that meat'). i've seen it several times before, but it's funny every time! :rofl: :rofl:
20 Dec 2004, 07:57 #764
jholic wrote:*sigh* dallas finds a way to lose again. due to lack of offense once again. so what else is new. the only bright point is that julius jones does look pretty good.

Oh man, another Cowboy fan... Now Gregsan has a buddy to share his grief with. :hehe:


Ho ho ho: The Chargers (wha???????) take the AFC West division crown with a 21-0 shutout of the Browns in a December snowstorm in Cleveland... :applaud: :applaud:
20 Dec 2004, 09:21 #765
Wooo what a day of football! Raiders in a shootout coming out on top. Collins with 5 TD passes and 3 of them going to Porter! Thank goodness I started Porter in the opening of the fantasy playoffs and along with Burleson's 2 catches that's 5 TDs from my receivers, not to mention LT was LT as usual and big Jamal Lewis is coming back for me :hehe: :hehe:

Just finished watching the Pack and Jags game. Favre nearly pulled off comeback number 34. For some reason watching the game in the frozen tundra made me want to go outside and run so after the game ended I ran 3 miles in the blistering cold. Nothing better then freezing and sweating at the same time. Ok I need a shower before I start to watch Manning break the record and also throw 5 TDs to save one of my fantasy teams over Impression :hehe: :hehe:
20 Dec 2004, 15:03 #766
So manning didn't break the record but at least the colts win. I know we always talk about how great of an arm Manning has and how good of a player he is but one thing that shouldn't be overlooked is how smart of a player he is. I couldn't even begin to count just how many audibles Manning called in that 2nd half after being pretty much contained the 1st half. Of course Ray Lewis was calling audibles on defense to counter Manning but that game was so entertaining to watch. You've got literally the best offense and defense in the league going at it. It's simply awesome to watch a quick or no huddle offense set up the play, then read the defense and locate where the blitz is coming from, then change the play, and then have the def change the play, and then the offense again. Simply how football should be played. Great Sunday night game tonight :applaud: :applaud:
20 Dec 2004, 23:11 #767
eltinator wrote:So manning didn't break the record but at least the colts win. I know we always talk about how great of an arm Manning has and how good of a player he is but one thing that shouldn't be overlooked is how smart of a player he is.

Yes. There's more to a great QB that just a good passer: there's being a great field general... Montana is the best example of this. :D
21 Dec 2004, 03:15 #768
Again, I'm not putting Manning down, but I still don't put him in the catagory of being a "GREAT" QB.

There have always been guys who put up outstanding numbers.

But the object of the exercise is to win games, and win championships.

The best I ever saw was Montana.

The best I've read about is Otto Graham, the QB of the Cleveland Browns in the 40's and 50's.

Graham had his team in ten straight Championship games. Won most of them. The last five after the Browns joined the NFL.

How do you beat a record like that?

He never missed a game in his pro career, set all kinds of passing records, and retired in 1955 when he was 33.

10 Championship games in a row! Jeez!
21 Dec 2004, 03:56 #769
Geezer wrote:Again, I'm not putting Manning down, but I still don't put him in the catagory of being a "GREAT" QB.

There have always been guys who put up outstanding numbers.

But the object of the exercise is to win games, and win championships.

The best I ever saw was Montana.

The best I've read about is Otto Graham, the QB of the Cleveland Browns in the 40's and 50's.

Graham had his team in ten straight Championship games. Won most of them. The last five after the Browns joined the NFL.

How do you beat a record like that?

He never missed a game in his pro career, set all kinds of passing records, and retired in 1955 when he was 33.

10 Championship games in a row! Jeez!


Very good point. I think ultimately before it's said and done Manning will eventually get a superbowl ring. It'd be a damn shame if he didn't. Kinda like when I was rooting for Chris Carter to get one. But the guy's still young so there's plenty of time. I just hope he won't choke up in he playoffs as much.

But as far as regular season numbers go, it's pretty likely that he's going to break every single relevant record out there.
21 Dec 2004, 04:42 #770
Geezer wrote:Again, I'm not putting Manning down, but I still don't put him in the catagory of being a "GREAT" QB.

There have always been guys who put up outstanding numbers.

But the object of the exercise is to win games, and win championships.

The best I ever saw was Montana.

Total agreement. Marino was a prolific passer, but he couldn't win the big dance...
21 Dec 2004, 05:51 #771
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1950067

Owens out for the rest of the season and maybe even playoffs!!!

On the bright side of things for the Eagles, they at least have homefield advantage and they also play in the NFC.
21 Dec 2004, 08:49 #772
eltinator wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1950067

Owens out for the rest of the season and maybe even playoffs!!!

Whoa. Now I wonder how vulnerable it makes the Eagles.....
21 Dec 2004, 10:42 #773
bmwracer wrote:
Whoa. Now I wonder how vulnerable it makes the Eagles.....


I think this opens up the NFC a little bit more. I picked the Eagles to go to the superbowl before TO got hurt and right now, I still pick them to go to the superbowl.

If you look at the teams fighting for a playoff spot in the NFC, pretty much whoever makes it from the NFC West will lose. Whoever gets the 6th wild card spot will lose, aside from the Panthers the one real deadly team in the bunch. So the eagles will probably face either the Packers in which they killed not just cause they scored a lot of points but their defense contained Favre. The Vikings are very erratic and hec, they could still miss the playoffs! The Falcons are a 2 sided team, you never know which side will come up but if you blitz Vick, then he's going to have trouble throwing the ball.

So after losing 3 straight NFC title games, they should still be able to make it to the super bowl, but I highly doubt they'll win whether they face the Pats, Steelers, Colts, Chargers, or even against one of the AFC wild card teams.
22 Dec 2004, 12:12 #774
Upset of the season: Dolphins beat the Pats, 29-28... :applaud:
23 Dec 2004, 14:52 #775
Not like it's a surprise, or gonna change anything, but the Niners have just put Andre Carter on IR, so he's gone for the last two games of the season.

He was out for awhile because, according to the PR people, he had a cyst in his lower back and it was pressing on some nerves.

He had surgery for it, came back, but now a new cyst has formed, and he has to go in for surgery again.

I wish him well. I've been a big Carter fan since he started at Cal. Hopefully this isn't any more serious then they are saying... and hopefully when he comes back he'll start living up to his talent.

Carter joins starters:
Ahmed Plummer,
Julian Peterson,
Jeremy Newberry,
Mike Rumph
and Brandon Whiting

on injured reserve.

Jeez I need this season to end soon, so that the firing can begin.
23 Dec 2004, 18:54 #776
for those of you in the playoffs, don't forget: there are FRIDAY and SAT games this week! good luck!

i made the playoffs in my league - now i'll see if it counts for anything! :mrgreen:
24 Dec 2004, 04:44 #777
jholic wrote:for those of you in the playoffs, don't forget: there are FRIDAY and SAT games this week! good luck!

i made the playoffs in my league - now i'll see if it counts for anything! :mrgreen:


hehe good luck! We have the superbowl this week in the jdorama league and also superbowl in my math class league. Too bad I'm out in the jdorama one but 1 more win and I'm the winner of my math class league :D
24 Dec 2004, 14:51 #778
eltinator wrote:If you look at the teams fighting for a playoff spot in the NFC, pretty much whoever makes it from the NFC West will lose. Whoever gets the 6th wild card spot will lose, aside from the Panthers the one real deadly team in the bunch. So the eagles will probably face either the Packers in which they killed not just cause they scored a lot of points but their defense contained Favre. The Vikings are very erratic and hec, they could still miss the playoffs! The Falcons are a 2 sided team, you never know which side will come up but if you blitz Vick, then he's going to have trouble throwing the ball.

Yeah, I'd have to agree that the NFC is pretty weak in comparison to the AFC. In fact, it's not that the Eagles look that strong, but the rest of the NFC is so bad...

The Chargers have got to be the Cinderella team this year, but I'd really like to see the Steelers or Colts go all the way. :D
24 Dec 2004, 15:04 #779
Just heard that Michael Vick extended his contract for ten years at $100M...

Plus a $37M signing bonus... WTF????? :banghead:
24 Dec 2004, 15:38 #780
Re: the Vick contract for 100 mill.

There have been a couple of those huge 100 mill QB contracts signed the last couple of years.

Bizarre. Outrageous. But smart.

Vick is the Falcons. Without him, they're nothing. And locking him up for the majority of his career is probably the smartest thing they could have done.

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