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i mean, i complain about t chang and the uh warriors, and they complete a miracle three game win streak vs good teams.

i complain about my plowboys, and they just start winning like crazy. maybe i should just SHUT UP if i want them to get that high draft pick?? (actually, i hope the bills stop winning! we've got their 1st round pick this year, dangit!)

Geezer wrote:So who'll turn out to have the better career?

Julius Jones at Dallas?

Or Kevin Jones in Detroit.

Both Mooch and the Tuna do love the running game. And it looks like their rookies are starting to blossum.

great question, Geez. of course, i WANT jj to do well in big D. but i'm gonna go w/ the dark horse pick right now. kj has an excellent chance of doing well cuz detroit pretty much gots their puzzle completed. harrington, r williams, kj. and c rogers (who keeps getting hurt). on the other hand, jj looks great, but we haven't played good teams. and who's gonna be our qb next year? wr? is larry allen staying?

but watching jj run is such a relief for any dallas fan. i mean, he looks FAST! but is it just cuz we've been watching eddie george all year? :beaten:

Here's a good article from today's SF Chronicle about what's wrong with the 49'ers:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/12/08/SPGNFA8DUK1.DTL

I'm still all for Larry Ellison, Steve Young & Partners, or anyone else, buying the 49'ers, as long as they don't move the team away. Any new ownership can only be better. :banghead:
-PCM

jholic wrote:
great question, Geez. of course, i WANT jj to do well in big D. but i'm gonna go w/ the dark horse pick right now. kj has an excellent chance of doing well cuz detroit pretty much gots their puzzle completed. harrington, r williams, kj. and c rogers (who keeps getting hurt). on the other hand, jj looks great, but we haven't played good teams. and who's gonna be our qb next year? wr? is larry allen staying?

but watching jj run is such a relief for any dallas fan. i mean, he looks FAST! but is it just cuz we've been watching eddie george all year? :beaten:

Both the Jones will probably do all right but I think the next big running back is gonna be Willis McGahee. The guy is so freaking fast and can run with the best of em. Maybe involve him a little more in the passing game and you got maybe a mini LT :hehe: :hehe:

Niners need to keep on losing to guarantee they get the #1 draft pick. :P
This is what the Warriors should have done last year. So they could have gotten LeBron. :beatyou:

mvc wrote:Niners need to keep on losing to guarantee they get the #1 draft pick. :P
This is what the Warriors should have done last year. So they could have gotten LeBron. :beatyou:

Isn't this coming draft looking pretty weak though? I mean there isn't a real consensus number 1 like last years draft with Eli. But then again you find gems in the NFL draft even in the 3rd and 4th rounds and later too. :hehe:

I honestly don't know who'll have the best career, Julius or Kevin Jones.

I guess I lean toward Kevin in Detroit because Julius had such an up and down career at N.D.

As for Willis McGahee... a great talent. But he's never really been able to stay healthy. And I"m always leary of talented RBs who seem to be "unlucky".

Both Jones are pretty damn good. But I have to say Julius Jones will get better stats than Kevin Jones even though I like Kevin Jones better. I don't see the Lions pulling off a Chargers kind of explosion anytime soon.

and yea...theres really no "outstanding", eye-popping rookies to draft this year. NEW QB, NEW QB!!!

Yeah, a new QB to be pummeled behind that sieve the Niners call an offensive line.

By the way, they've finally ruled Rattay out for the Cards game, and maybe the next couple of games. He's got a torn Plantar Facia (sp?)muscle in his foot and can't walk.

Dorsey will start. Doman has been resigned.

Oh, and Barlow will miss the Cards game due to a concussion.

Impression15 wrote:Both Jones are pretty damn good. But I have to say Julius Jones will get better stats than Kevin Jones even though I like Kevin Jones better. I don't see the Lions pulling off a Chargers kind of explosion anytime soon.

and yea...theres really no "outstanding", eye-popping rookies to draft this year. NEW QB, NEW QB!!!

The thing about Lions RB that kinda gets to me is that they're probably just going to run them out of town like Barry Sanders who in my opinion was the best I ever saw and it's a damn shame they couldn't win with him. I think the Lions just need Harrington to step it up. This was sort of the year for him to do that. He should already be used to Mariucci's offense and the organization surrounded him with young talent in Tai Streets, Azhir Hakim, and the very talented Roy Williams. Too bad Carlos Rogers got hurt but Harrington is still descent at best. Their defense is roughly in the middle of the league but the offense was supposed to perform a lot better. Just never materialized. Until Harrington becomes a Drew Brees, they ain't going anywhere :hehe:

Geezer wrote:

Oh, and Barlow will miss the Cards game due to a concussion.

Yea go Maurice Hicks! I've only seen him play like one game against the Dolphins but the kid isn't too bad.

eltinator wrote:

Yea go Maurice Hicks! I've only seen him play like one game against the Dolphins but the kid isn't too bad.

He's really the only bright spot about the 49er's this year.

eltinator wrote:The thing about Lions RB that kinda gets to me is that they're probably just going to run them out of town like Barry Sanders who in my opinion was the best I ever saw and it's a damn shame they couldn't win with him.

well, when you say 'they', i believe you're referring to the lions' mgt team, cuz detroit city loved barry. i loved barry. he was sugar for the eyes.

but i don't believe barry was run out of town. he definitely left on his own accord. he had asked that the lions make some changes to help the team win. the mgt did not make those changes. he asked that he be traded. being the ignorant doofeses they were, they played hardball and said that barry would NEVER play for another team (while under contract). barry retired.

well, in any case, how's the fantasy football going in jdorama? elt, weren't you in the lead w/ manning? when's your playoffs?

Larry Ellison's recent comments about the 49'ers not being for sale:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/12/08/sports2007EST0163.DTL



Hard to be a Niner fan these days. It's like the 1970s, but without hope.
-PCM

jholic wrote:
well, when you say 'they', i believe you're referring to the lions' mgt team, cuz detroit city loved barry. i loved barry. he was sugar for the eyes.

but i don't believe barry was run out of town. he definitely left on his own accord. he had asked that the lions make some changes to help the team win. the mgt did not make those changes. he asked that he be traded. being the ignorant doofeses they were, they played hardball and said that barry would NEVER play for another team (while under contract). barry retired.

well, in any case, how's the fantasy football going in jdorama? elt, weren't you in the lead w/ manning? when's your playoffs?

Yea it was the management I'm talking about not the fans. Those guys just should have let him go. I'm sure they could have gotten a first rounder, solid veteran and maybe even more for Barry. *sigh* =T

hey, it's getting close to ff playoffs! in my league, our playoffs are in wk16, and superbowl in wk17. if i can win this week's game, i'm pretty much locked up for the playoffs.

my league only has six owners, so every year, EVERYONE has a chance at the playoffs up until the last wk or two. i like that a little better than those large leagues in which people are eliminated by wk6 or so.

eltinator wrote:

Yea it was the management I'm talking about not the fans. Those guys just should have let him go. I'm sure they could have gotten a first rounder, solid veteran and maybe even more for Barry. *sigh* =T

This from the guy who quit rooting for the 9ers because they cut Steve Young loose?

If management had traded Barry Sanders away, Detroit would have gone up in flames.

Back to the Niners for a moment.

Someone mentioned that they hoped the Niners would go on losing so that they can get the #1 pick in the draft.

I think that's a terrible idea. I don't think the goal should ever be to lose as many games as possible in order to get a first rounder. No matter who it is. (In the long run, that kind of thinking destroys a team)

But at this point I'd kind of prefer that the Niners go on losing, because the current Niner management has been very good over the last few years at fooling themselves into thinking they are on the right track.

Winning 3 or even 2 of the remaining games would probably convince these idiots that they had made the right choices. That all they have to do is wait for their injured players to come back, and everything will be okay.

This junker of a team is in need of massive changes. And at this point, I think the only way they'll admit to that is if they officially end the season as the absolutely worst team in the league.

Geezer wrote:

This from the guy who quit rooting for the 9ers because they cut Steve Young loose?

If management had traded Barry Sanders away, Detroit would have gone up in flames.

Well you gotta remember Kevin that I wasn't nor am I a Detroit fan so I wanted to see Barry playing here in the bay area :hehe: :hehe:

But there is a huge difference between Sanders and Young's situation. Young was on a winning team and still thought he could keep going. Sanders on the other hand was on a losing team and lost confidence. The only similarity would be that both moves would help the team in some way but trading someone away for good players and forcing someone into retirement are 2 totally different things.

interesting perspective, Geez. yes, it's unfortunate, but football has become more of a business than it is a sport.

Geezer wrote:Someone mentioned that they hoped the Niners would go on losing so that they can get the #1 pick in the draft.

well, i believe that pro athletes are inherently very competitive. i would find it difficult to believe that erickson and the team would purposely lose games to get a draft pick. just as i see the dolphins fighting with all their heart to win games.

Geezer wrote:But at this point I'd kind of prefer that the Niners go on losing, ... Winning 3 or even 2 of the remaining games would probably convince these idiots that they had made the right choices.

oh, ho, you and i share the same opinion - just different teams. i joke that i want the 'boys to lose for a higher draft pick, but i agree w/ you. i fully believe that jj and tuna squandered their offseason on stupid free agent acquisitions. now, if they make the playoffs, it'll make them think that they can get away w/ another cr*p offseason! :angry:

The day's wrap up:

49ers blow a 21-point lead, but win in OT 31-28 over the Cardinals... There must be dancing in the Bay Area. :D

Oakland gets trounced by the Falcons, 35-10.

The Bus takes charge as the Steelers beat the Jets 17-6.

Manning throws two more TDs in a 23-14 win over the Texans...

Chargers dream season continues as they beat the Bucs, 31-24.

Seattle takes over the lead in the woeful NFC West by beating the suddenly woeful Vikings, 27-23, while the Rams lose in Carolina 20-7...

Yes, the Niners manage to beat the Cards in over time once again.

Dancing?

Actually there were four of my neighbors in my living room, 9er fanatics all, wondering at half time how the Niners were gonna manage to blow the lead and lose the game.

And they damned near did it.

It was wierd by the end. Noone knew how to react.

The win was nice. But if they'd lost the game, Erickson would have been fired on Monday. And nobody I know thinks that would be a bad thing.