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Now that the three debates are over did anyone change their mind or make up their mind about which candidate to support?

Doramafan113 wrote:Now that the three debates are over did anyone change their mind or make up their mind about which candidate to support?

From what I've seen and heard, it appears that Kerry pretty much won all three debates...

I felt Kerry won all three debates myself but I am biased towards Kerry so I can't really be too objective.

Doramafan113 wrote:I felt Kerry won all three debates myself but I am biased towards Kerry so I can't really be too objective.

Same here, particularly after watching the various excerpts...

The polls I've seen gave Kerry the win, maybe a tie in the second debate.

I think the debates were not very good overall though. The 3rd didn't even touch on some good hard questions, too many fluffy ones.

Bleah.

I think you can get a sense for the character of the man from the debates though. IMNSHO, Kerry carries himself presidentially, calm, cool, factual, while Bush can't control his emotions, and he makes stuff up, like saying he never said he didn't care about Bin Laden. He did say that, and it's on video.

I hope the press plays that one up.

For me that comes back to one of my big gripes about his foreign policy. At the beginning of his term, Bush hardly even spoke of Bin Laden, but continuously spoke of Iraq. After he decided to invade Iraq, it was as if Bin Laden again was just forgotten.

But mostly, I can't wait for November to come and go.

vibius wrote:Kerry carries himself presidentially, calm, cool, factual, while Bush can't control his emotions, and he makes stuff up, like saying he never said he didn't care about Bin Laden. He did say that, and it's on video.

Some of the post-debate commentaries made similar assessments regarding their presentation/aura/demeanor....

ahochaude wrote:
I don't want this thread to be a cause of tension between users on this board.
If this thread gets off topic and gets out of control, I will lock it, and delete ALL future political threads.

Probably it makes sense to lock this thread. It's not really on topic with J-Doramas in the first place, and probably everything that's going to be said about this topic has already been said in one form or the other.

Doramafan113 wrote:
Now that the three debates are over did anyone change their mind or make up their mind about which candidate to support?

I would venture to say that NO ONE in this group is on the fence and about to change their minds...regardless of the debates.

bmwracer wrote:Some of the post-debate commentaries made similar assessments regarding their presentation/aura/demeanor....

Yeah. I don't feel that debates are the ideal setting for explaining their platforms ... so they end up being more judged on appearances. Well, it seems that way to me. It's not entirely a bad thing. I do think we should elect a president with good leadership qualities. For me, that's Kerry.

Now, if the debate were held more like a real "debate", with a team on each side, with all the notes they want, that would be more exciting to me. That's how some competitive debating is done. It's fun to watch.

vibius wrote:Yeah. I don't feel that debates are the ideal setting for explaining their platforms ... so they end up being more judged on appearances. Well, it seems that way to me. It's not entirely a bad thing. I do think we should elect a president with good leadership qualities.

I think a lot of people made the same assessment in 1960 between JFK and Nixon: JFK showed his charisma and Nixon showed his 5 o'clock shadow... :hehe:

Now, if the debate were held more like a real "debate", with a team on each side, with all the notes they want, that would be more exciting to me. That's how some competitive debating is done. It's fun to watch.

Yeah, that's how I've always envisioned debates... Fat chance of that happening here...

I'm sorry, I don't want you to close the debate because of me because the debate was with me, whereas i'm not american.

I think it's really interesting to discuss about politic.

Here's some info concerning the Supreme Court I was talking about last time.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/20/election.scotus/index.html

for the americans on the board: have you voted today? I got my sticker!
do the patriotic thing and vote early and often! hahahahaha....

niko2x wrote:for the americans on the board: have you voted today? I got my sticker!
do the patriotic thing and vote early and often! hahahahaha....

I voted absentee last week. :woot:

man, at my work place, the ronald reagan builoding is a madhouse. bush and his people are here to get ready for his victory/losing speech. the amount of cameras here are amazing!!! if i get a chance, i'll snap some pics.

niko2x wrote:for the americans on the board: have you voted today? I got my sticker!
do the patriotic thing and vote early and often! hahahahaha....

Voted early touchscreen over a week ago!!

Voted absentee two weeks ago.

thetenken wrote:Here's some info concerning the Supreme Court I was talking about last time.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/20/election.scotus/index.html

Here we go again :) . Ahh, CNN. The bastion of objectivity.

I voted this morning. Did you know that, in Hawaii, you get treated to a luau breakfast immediately following voting? Yeah, you just go to the luau tent next to the respective polling place, show 'em your stub and . . . BWWHAHAHHAHAHA, JJJUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSS' KIDDING.

I voted this morning. Paper ballot.

The Man wrote:

Here we go again :) . Ahh, CNN. The bastion of objectivity.

I voted this morning. Did you know that, in Hawaii, you get treated to a luau breakfast immediately following voting? Yeah, you just go to the luau tent next to the respective polling place, show 'em your stub and . . . BWWHAHAHHAHAHA, JJJUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSS' KIDDING.

I voted this morning. Paper ballot.

I heard in Seattle you got free starbucks coffee, in Philadelphia you got cheesesteaks, and NY you got mugged after you voted. (also joke)

Gonna head out to vote as soon as I finish my lunch.

Hmmm...

No WMDs.

No threat to America.

No connection between Iraq and the terrorists who blew up the Towers and the Pentagon.

Cut soldiers pay.

Tried to cut combat pay.

Cut allowance to families while soldiers were out of the country fighting a war, almost in half.

Closed a bucket full of V. A. Hospitals.

Keystone Kops approach to securing post war Iraq.

Back door draft.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

Drove the country deeper into debt than at any time in history.

Not a single net job created in over 3 years. First time since Hoover.

Man, I'm on the fence.

Doramafan113 wrote:

I heard in Seattle you got free starbucks coffee, in Philadelphia you got cheesesteaks, and NY you got mugged after you voted. (also joke)

That's funny!!