bmwracer wrote:I was just watching the Chris Matthews Show and one of the commentators (David Brooks, NY Times) said that Sarah Palin will rise to the level of mediocrity... As if that's something to shoot for.... :crazy:
David Brooks is a conservative columnist who participates in weekly discussion along side liberal columnist Mark Shields of the Boston (Herald, I think).
Well, at least he's being honest...now that all the hot air has been expelled from her convention balloon.
Biden has got his own PR problems but they pale in comparison to Palin's...he's give roughly 100 post VP nomination interviews...I think she's given 3...shows how much damage she's perceived to inflict on the Republican ticket...and how little faith they have in her ability to speak intelligently on an unscripted basis.
Tu_triky wrote:David Brooks is a conservative columnist who participates in weekly discussion along side liberal columnist Mark Shields of the Boston (Herald, I think).
Well, at least he's being honest...now that all the hot air has been expelled from her convention balloon.
Biden has got his own PR problems but they pale in comparison to Palin's...he's give roughly 100 post VP nomination interviews...I think she's given 3...shows how much damage she's perceived to inflict on the Republican ticket...and how little faith they have in her ability to speak intelligently on an unscripted basis.
Yet all these people show up to check her out and seem likely to vote for her... :shakehead:
Looks like the election is gravitating around her personality, not qualifications... Sorta like the Top 50 lists we have here at J-D. :crazy: :bleh:
bmwracer wrote:
Looks like the election is gravitating around her personality, not qualifications... Sorta like the Top 50 lists we have here at J-D. :crazy: :bleh:
I think the spin the Republicans are going to put on the VP debate is: If Biden wipes the floor with her, they'll say, "Well she's new to this, this was her first debate. etc." If Palin comes off even remotely coherent then they'll say, "See, she's not so bad"
gaijinmark wrote:I think the spin the Republicans are going to put on the VP debate is: If Biden wipes the floor with her, they'll say, "Well she's new to this, this was her first debate. etc." If Palin comes off even remotely coherent then they'll say, "See, she's not so bad"
Kissinger Instructs Palin On Finer Points Of Clandestine Carpet Bombing
September 24, 2008 | Issue 44•39
WASHINGTON\In preparation for her debate with Sen. Joe Biden next week, Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin met with seasoned statesman and Nobel Peace Prize–winner Henry Kissinger yesterday to take advantage of his extensive foreign policy knowledge and expertise in carpet-bombing innocent civilians in nations with which the U.S. is not officially at war.
"Dr. Kissinger has given Gov. Palin thorough instructions for launching deadly covert military operations in tiny Southeast Asian countries in blatant disregard for human life and international law," said McCain campaign spokesperson Tracey Schmitt of Palin's brief consultation with the Nixon and Ford administrations' former secretary of state and national security adviser. "In addition, the governor now feels completely confident that, if she is ever required to step in for Sen. McCain to mastermind the toppling of a democratically elected but left-leaning South American government without congressional consent, she will be fully prepared."
Sources close to the campaign said that Palin's meeting with Vice President Cheney about how to claim executive supremacy for the purpose of bypassing constitutional limits on torture has been canceled since advisers feel she already has enough personal experience with the subject.
Kissinger Instructs Palin On Finer Points Of Clandestine Carpet Bombing
September 24, 2008 | Issue 44•39
WASHINGTON\In preparation for her debate with Sen. Joe Biden next week, Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin met with seasoned statesman and Nobel Peace Prize–winner Henry Kissinger yesterday to take advantage of his extensive foreign policy knowledge and expertise in carpet-bombing innocent civilians in nations with which the U.S. is not officially at war.
"Dr. Kissinger has given Gov. Palin thorough instructions for launching deadly covert military operations in tiny Southeast Asian countries in blatant disregard for human life and international law," said McCain campaign spokesperson Tracey Schmitt of Palin's brief consultation with the Nixon and Ford administrations' former secretary of state and national security adviser. "In addition, the governor now feels completely confident that, if she is ever required to step in for Sen. McCain to mastermind the toppling of a democratically elected but left-leaning South American government without congressional consent, she will be fully prepared."
Sources close to the campaign said that Palin's meeting with Vice President Cheney about how to claim executive supremacy for the purpose of bypassing constitutional limits on torture has been canceled since advisers feel she already has enough personal experience with the subject.
I noticed Palin spent a lot of time staring into the camera during her answers rather than looking at moderator Gwen Ifill or Biden... :headscratch:
Yeah, I watched it. I actually think Palin did a lot better than people expected. She was at least somewhat competent, even if she stayed real close to her talking points. As a debate it was absolutely boring - neither of them were up for debate. I don't know if the questions were really catering to a good debate though either.
Biden weren't real interesting either. <yawn> NPR's Neal Conan's post-debate coverage was much more interesting. Especially when the guy from Alaska called and said that he knew Sarah Palin personally and that her anti-abortion/religious zeal was a political front to appease the Republican base and that he had never had a conversation with her about religion. All this in the guise of wooing swing voters who were afraid she was too conservative - saying she wasn't.
phlargo wrote:Yeah, I watched it. I actually think Palin did a lot better than people expected. She was at least somewhat competent, even if she stayed real close to her talking points. As a debate it was absolutely boring - neither of them were up for debate. I don't know if the questions were really catering to a good debate though either.
Well, the expectations for Palin were low to begin with, so the only way she could possibly go was up or completely crash and burn.
There was criticism towards the moderator as well for being too soft and not pressing either on vague/unclear responses.
Biden weren't real interesting either. <yawn> NPR's Neal Conan's post-debate coverage was much more interesting. Especially when the guy from Alaska called and said that he knew Sarah Palin personally and that her anti-abortion/religious zeal was a political front to appease the Republican base and that he had never had a conversation with her about religion. All this in the guise of wooing swing voters who were afraid she was too conservative - saying she wasn't.
Of course the post-debate stuff is always more juicy/opinionated... No one would expect otherwise. :)
bmwracer wrote:
Of course the post-debate stuff is always more juicy/opinionated... No one would expect otherwise. :)
Actually, I felt like there was an interesting undertone of sarcasm in the debate, I felt... almost like Gwen Ifill was making fun of them.. or making fun of Sarah Palin. Joe Biden, at least, fit the politician role to a T, even if he didn't say a damn thing of interest. I couldn't help but feel that Sarah Palin still felt a little too much like school mom at a PTA meeting.
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