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Man, watching the news is sad: The McCain-Palin campaign is trying to smear Obama with terrorist implications, since Obama was a neighbor with someone who was part of the Weather Underground... :shakehead:

They've been using this tact from day one... What a pathetic group of losers.

When's someone gonna step up and smack down this type of politicking. :grumble:

bmwracer wrote:Man, watching the news is sad: The McCain-Palin campaign is trying to smear Obama with terrorist implications, since Obama was a neighbor with someone who was part of the Weather Underground... :shakehead:

They've been using this tact from day one... What a pathetic group of losers.

When's someone gonna step up and smack down this type of politicking. :grumble:

Just goes to show how desperate McCain is getting, and sadly his campaign seems to be less and less about issues now and more of just attacking Obama. But hey, if Palin can be knowledgeable about Russia since she lives close by, then Obama must be pals with a terrorist who just happens to live nearby. :beaten: That's some quirky logic, but it works for the campaign.

Seriously, Obama was just a kid when William Ayers and the Weather Underground were involved in bombings, and while they did serve on a board together in Chicago over 10 years ago, in no way did Ayers bring Obama on board. They just happened to be part of the same group, one that oversaw grants to the city. Nothing more than that. Thankfully CNN and The New York Times have refuted the claims brought up by Palin, and hopefully those who heard what Palin said actually do some follow up work and check the facts.

I understand politics is full of negative attacks, but when an attack like this has already been refuted, it's really disappointing. Obama is firing back by bringing up the Keating Five scandal McCain was involved in, a scandal McCain has regrets about. In the negative attack column, I say Obama is no better than McCain, but it'll be mighty hard for the McCain-Palin camp to refute it. One other attack McCain might want to watch out for is The Rolling Stone article that shows how little of a maverick John McCain truly is.

(Edit: just adding more personal thoughts)

It really disturbs me as to how far McCain will go in order to win the Presidency. I actually thought bringing Palin in as the VP choice was a smart move, to try to win over any Hillary supporters who were still fuming over the fact that she lost. Obviously once Palin started doing interviews, all two or three of them (not sure whether the one with Sean Hannity actually counts), it was a painful realization that the choice was not a smart one, but showed that McCain was willing to put the country at risk in an attempt to win the election. Palin might do well at a state level of government, but she has shown she is not up to the task of being just a step away from being President.

What I once thought was a smart move, I now find very annoying. First off, the Joe Six Pack and Hockey/Soccer Mom references have been spouted off mercilessly, with Palin trying to present herself as just a regular, average person. Look, it's great if a politician can actually understand where people are coming from, but in no way would I want a regular person to hold a job that has extraordinary requirements. If "one of us" became President, the nation would be in serious trouble. Sadly, it's almost as if Palin relishes the fact that she's in way over her head, continually trying to tell people that she's just like anyone else, not some Washington insider and that it's time someone like her was in the White House. I don't know about anyone else, but despite whatever shady dealings politicians may do, I think going with an insider who has some knowledge and understanding of what being President or Vice President is a much safer bet than someone who seems to enjoy the fact that she doesn't have much knowledge or understanding.

deseipher wrote:Just goes to show how desperate McCain is getting, and sadly his campaign seems to be less and less about issues now and more of just attacking Obama. But hey, if Palin can be knowledgeable about Russia since she lives close by, then Obama must be pals with a terrorist who just happens to live nearby. :beaten: That's some quirky logic, but it works for the campaign.

Total desperation... I just hope it doesn't sucker enough people to make him President... It'll be another four years of suffering.

Seriously, Obama was just a kid when William Ayers and the Weather Underground were involved in bombings, and while they did serve on a board together in Chicago over 10 years ago, in no way did Ayers bring Obama on board. They just happened to be part of the same group, one that oversaw grants to the city. Nothing more than that. Thankfully CNN and The New York Times have refuted the claims brought up by Palin, and hopefully those who heard what Palin said actually do some follow up work and check the facts.

It's guilt by association... Problem is, most of the fools, er, people who go out to see Palin are hypnotized by her novelty, and never think about checking up on the facts... :shakehead:

I understand politics is full of negative attacks, but when an attack like this has already been refuted, it's really disappointing. Obama is firing back by bringing up the Keating Five scandal McCain was involved in, a scandal McCain has regrets about. In the negative attack column, I say Obama is no better than McCain, but it'll be mighty hard for the McCain-Palin camp to refute it. One other attack McCain might want to watch out for is The Rolling Stone article that shows how little of a maverick John McCain truly is.

Unfortunately, the Obama camp has to attack in kind, else the perception is that he's not "a fighter."

With stakes this high, the mudslinging escalation is (sadly) expected. :bleh:

(Edit: just adding more personal thoughts)

It really disturbs me as to how far McCain will go in order to win the Presidency. I actually thought bringing Palin in as the VP choice was a smart move, to try to win over any Hillary supporters who were still fuming over the fact that she lost. Obviously once Palin started doing interviews, all two or three of them (not sure whether the one with Sean Hannity actually counts), it was a painful realization that the choice was not a smart one, but showed that McCain was willing to put the country at risk in an attempt to win the election. Palin might do well at a state level of government, but she has shown she is not up to the task of being just a step away from being President.

What I once thought was a smart move, I now find very annoying. First off, the Joe Six Pack and Hockey/Soccer Mom references have been spouted off mercilessly, with Palin trying to present herself as just a regular, average person. Look, it's great if a politician can actually understand where people are coming from, but in no way would I want a regular person to hold a job that has extraordinary requirements. If "one of us" became President, the nation would be in serious trouble. Sadly, it's almost as if Palin relishes the fact that she's in way over her head, continually trying to tell people that she's just like anyone else, not some Washington insider and that it's time someone like her was in the White House. I don't know about anyone else, but despite whatever shady dealings politicians may do, I think going with an insider who has some knowledge and understanding of what being President or Vice President is a much safer bet than someone who seems to enjoy the fact that she doesn't have much knowledge or understanding.

I agree wholeheartedly.

Yeah, anyone can grow up to be The President, but not anyone can be the President... You can't just step off the turnip truck and just expect to lead a nation, especially the U.S...

BTW, interesting article... As is the "Mad Dog Palin" one... :victory:

Excerpt from the "Mad Dog Palin" article:

The truly disgusting thing about Sarah Palin isn't that she's totally unqualified, or a religious zealot, or married to a secessionist, or unable to educate her own daughter about sex, or a fake conservative who raised taxes and horked up earmark millions every chance she got. No, the most disgusting thing about her is what she says about us: that you can ram us in the ass for eight solid years, and we'll not only thank you for your trouble, we'll sign you up for eight more years, if only you promise to stroke us in the right spot for a few hours around election time.

bmwracer wrote:Excerpt from the "Mad Dog Palin" article:

The truly disgusting thing about Sarah Palin isn't that she's totally unqualified, or a religious zealot, or married to a secessionist, or unable to educate her own daughter about sex, or a fake conservative who raised taxes and horked up earmark millions every chance she got. No, the most disgusting thing about her is what she says about us: that you can ram us in the ass for eight solid years, and we'll not only thank you for your trouble, we'll sign you up for eight more years, if only you promise to stroke us in the right spot for a few hours around election time.

:hehe: :hehe:

In other words, bend over and grab your ankles.

Tu_triky wrote: :hehe: :hehe:

In other words, bend over and grab your ankles.

"Assume the position." :hehe:


More from Rolling Stone ( http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/23140513/the_truth_about_sarah_palin ):

THE MYTH: "She's from a small town with small-town values." \ Fred Thompson, convention speech

THE FACTS: Wasilla and the surrounding valley recently named the meth capital of Alaska, with 42 meth labs busted in a single year.

More:

THE MYTH: "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending." \ Sarah Palin, convention speech

THE FACTS: As governor, sought travel reimbursement for 312 nights she spent in her own home.

:shakehead:

bmwracer wrote:More:

THE MYTH: "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending." \ Sarah Palin, convention speech

THE FACTS: As governor, sought travel reimbursement for 312 nights she spent in her own home.

:shakehead:

No surprises...she talks like a fuggin' hick, man. She is embarrassing.

The intellectual void b/n her ears and that of many of the people who support her candidacy is frightening.

This fake populist appeal to the masses, from the party that has basically run the nation into the ground is so disingenuous that it is contemptible.

Fear not though, the tide is turning against Grandpa Munster and the hick from Green Acres.

Tu_triky wrote:No surprises...she talks like a fuggin' hick, man. She is embarrassing.

The intellectual void b/n her ears and that of many of the people who support her candidacy is frightening.

This fake populist appeal to the masses, from the party that has basically run the nation into the ground is so disingenuous that it is contemptible.

Fear not though, the tide is turning against Grandpa Munster and the hick from Green Acres.

LOL. :hehe:

Here ya go:
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bmwracer wrote:
LOL. :hehe:

Here ya go:
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:lol: :hehe: :lol:

Funny a$$ sh&t.

^ Dude, I fell outta my chair when I saw the grandpa-McCain pic. :hehe: :rofl:

bmwracer wrote:^ Dude, I fell outta my chair when I saw the grandpa-McCain pic. :hehe: :rofl:

:hehe:

I need a bumper stick of that picture...fo' real.

Tu_triky wrote:I need a bumper stick of that picture...fo' real.

For real... I'd get one. :victory:

bmwracer wrote:
For real... I'd get one. :victory:

A t-shirt would be nice too....;)

Tu_triky wrote:A t-shirt would be nice too....;)

Nah, people from a distance might think I'm for the guy. :bleh:

bmwracer wrote:
Nah, people from a distance might think I'm for the guy. :bleh:

Haha....how many McCain supporters would tout that he looks like Grandpa Munster though? :beaten:

For the folks not old enough to remember the Keating 5 scandal... I thought I'd go a bit geezerly on you.

Today's financial crisis isn't the first rodeo for McCain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDofbll86dY&feature=iv&annotation_id=event_922988

Geezer wrote:I thought I'd go a bit geezerly on you.

:hehe: How apropo. ;)

Good old Alan Cranston, nothing like some bi-partisan corruption, those were the days!!! :woot:

Geezer wrote:For the folks not old enough to remember the Keating 5 scandal... I thought I'd go a bit geezerly on you.

Today's financial crisis isn't the first rodeo for McCain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDofbll86dY&feature=iv&annotation_id=event_922988

Obama's playing that card, now that McCain-Palin (or is it Palin-McCain) are playing the Weather Underground card...