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bmwracer wrote:
Like I said, you're talking about blood relatives vs. gay couples.

I don't assume preventing gay couples from marrying is discrimination... It IS discrimination.

And you didn't answer my question: are you anti-gay?

in YOUR point of view, it is discrimination.
it's not a proven fact.
and no, i'm not anti-gay.
i have lesbian and bisexual friends.
i wanna have a gay guy friend too :woot:

judochick wrote:krim, you got some really good points there.
i wasn't trying to argue with you guys.
i just said what was on my mind, so if i offended any of you, i apologize cuz that was truly not my intention.
but would any of you guys allow a man to marry his own biological daughter???
even if a guy really wanted to marry his daughter and the government wouldn't allow it, is that still discrimination?

I'm not offended, i'm just disgusted with the ingorance that so-called christians exhibit.

judochick wrote:in YOUR point of view, it is discrimination.
it's not a proven fact.

It's a fact of law:

Discrimination (Law Definition)

The act of denying rights, benefits, justice, equitable treatment, or access to facilities available to all others, to an individual or group of people because of their race, age, gender, handicap or other defining characteristic.

and no, i'm not anti-gay.
i have lesbian and bisexual friends.
i wanna have a gay guy friend too :woot:

So if any of your gay friends were to want to get married, you'd be against it, huh?

bmwracer wrote:So if any of your gay friends were to want to get married, you'd be against it, huh?

sadly, yes :shamefulcry:
my lesbian friend already said she wants to marry her girlfriend, but i couldn't say anything... :shamefulcry:
bmwracer, you need to understand that there are people in this world who don't have the same opinions as you do :sweat:
so you should accept other people's opinions. that's the respectful way.

judochick wrote:sadly, yes :shamefulcry:
my lesbian friend already said she wants to marry her girlfriend, but i couldn't say anything... :shamefulcry:
bmwracer, you need to understand that there are people in this world who don't have the same opinions as you do :sweat:
so you should accept other people's opinions. that's the respectful way.

I realize that... But you should also realize that every person on the planet has their right to live as they see fit as long as it doesn't harm others around them.

How can you have gay friends and grant them every liberty except for one? :sweat:

I'm glad the elections are over so we can all stop arguing. :mrgreen:

gaijinmark wrote:I'm glad the elections are over so we can all stop arguing. :mrgreen:

It's a post-election post-mortem. :)

krim wrote:

What else would you call a burger made in the town of Obama?

just a burger.

It hasn't quite hit me that history has been made, that Barack Obama will be first African-American President.

Maybe it hasn't hit me because I'm still trying to figure out how California voted for Prop. 2 and 8. Yes, Californians were more for giving farm animals more space to walk around than granting equality to gay and lesbian couples. :shakehead:

deseipher wrote:Maybe it hasn't hit me because I'm still trying to figure out how California voted for Prop. 2 and 8. Yes, Californians were more for giving farm animals more space to walk around than granting equality to gay and lesbian couples. :shakehead:

Irony abounds. :shakehead:

deseipher wrote:Californians were more for giving farm animals more space to walk around than granting equality to gay and lesbian couples. :shakehead:

Gotta love Californians. Sometimes the west coast isn't necessarily the best coast.

Takoyama wrote:Gotta love Californians. Sometimes the west coast isn't necessarily the best coast.

Yup.

We're supposed to be one of the most(?) progressive states, yet this happens. :headscratch:

I guess animals and pollution standards are more important than civil rights.

So what happens to all the gay married couples now? Are their licenses now considered void?

Takoyama wrote:So what happens to all the gay married couples now? Are their licenses now considered void?

They're in limbo, I suppose. :sweat:

deseipher wrote:
Maybe it hasn't hit me because I'm still trying to figure out how California voted for Prop. 2 and 8. Yes, Californians were more for giving farm animals more space to walk around than granting equality to gay and lesbian couples. :shakehead:

Simple: FUD

dochira wrote:Simple: FUD

Ain't it the truth. :bleh:

wow that was a discussion :mrgreen:

Takoyama wrote:Hado Gay does not approve Prop 8. :mrgreen:

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LOL.

It's been a while since I have seen Hado-Gay.. Is he still in the Japanese TV circuit? Or is he one of those fads that just eventually went away?

About Gay Marriage, I think the courts will try to overthrow the passing of Prop 8. It's just amazing to me how much hatred is out there.

In all fairness, if it doesn't pass, it doesn't pass. We just elected an African-American as president. Who knows, a couple of years from now, gay rights will eventually prevail.

Keith Olbermann rocks with his commentary though..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnHyy8gkNEE

copy and paste on link and watch.

I really don't like the yelling Mr. Olbermann, but this was pretty awesome of him. :)[/url]

littlemissfab wrote:About Gay Marriage, I think the courts will try to overthrow the passing of Prop 8. It's just amazing to me how much hatred is out there.

i don't think people who vote yes for prop 8 have hatred towards gays and lesbians.
a person who voted for obama doesn't mean that he or she hated mccain.
it's the same thing.
it's time to accept the outcome.

^ I actually hate McCain.