Basketball (NBA, College, etc.)

Started by bmwracer · 6 Oct 2004 · 7,377 replies

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27 Nov 2004, 15:36 #401
Wow what a finish in LA. Kobe busted out a big game but Bibby answers a 3 and then there was that fluke flagrant on Christie but Peja steals the ball and the rest was gravy. Kings win and that's 7 straight! :applaud:
29 Nov 2004, 23:55 #402
eltinator wrote:Kings win and that's 7 straight! :applaud:

Streak's over: 121-110 losers to the T-wolves... In Sac-town.


Lakers struggle but beat the one-win Hornets, 89-76.


Clips beat the Warriors, 103-91.
30 Nov 2004, 08:43 #403
bmwracer wrote:
Streak's over: 121-110 losers to the T-wolves... In Sac-town.


Lakers struggle but beat the one-win Hornets, 89-76.


Clips beat the Warriors, 103-91.


damn that KG! wait til we go down to Minny to get some revenge :hehe: :hehe:
30 Nov 2004, 12:18 #404
eltinator wrote:damn that KG! wait til we go down to Minny to get some revenge :hehe: :hehe:

Sam Cassell did some major damage too with 25 points. :)
30 Nov 2004, 12:35 #405
bmwracer wrote:
Sam Cassell did some major damage too with 25 points. :)


yea damn that guy too. :mad:

Still can't forget that 7 game series :beaten:
1 Dec 2004, 22:55 #406
If you told me that Kobe didn't make one single field goal in the last three quarters of a game, I'd say they Lakers got whooped, but in this case no: they beat the Bucks in Milwaukee, 95-90.

Brian Cook lead the Lakers in scoring with a career-high 25 points.

Go figure. :crazy:
2 Dec 2004, 04:06 #407
From Steve Kerr, Yahoo! Sports:

Derek Fisher must be going into shock. After winning three titles in five years, he's now on a squad that is basically out of the playoff hunt – in November.
2 Dec 2004, 04:19 #408
Maybe his being in shock explains how poorly he's been playing.
2 Dec 2004, 04:28 #409
Almost everyone doesn't know this...

Until 1929, all ABL* games were literally played in a cage. The basketball court was wrapped around a cage made of chicken wire, similar to that of the pexiglass walls surrounding the perimeter of hockey games. The cage separated the play of the game from the fans, which at the time were known to jump onto the court for various reasons.

The ABL removed the cage in 1929. And the rest, as they say, is history...

Maybe the NBA should bring back the chicken wire... :crazy:

--- groink

*ABL - American Basketball League, which along with the NBL, was the parents of the what we all known now as the National Basketball Association (NBA).
2 Dec 2004, 16:39 #410
Geezer wrote:Maybe his being in shock explains how poorly he's been playing.


Hahaha yea, our boys gotta pick up the slack. Out of the playoffs in November? Crap it can't be that bad yet. Don't tell me the W's are aiming for the number 1 pick still. I have no idea who's even good coming out of college ball right now. The talent level has been dying so bad in the NCAA.
9 Dec 2004, 13:41 #411
Oh man, is this team legit? Seattle beats San Antonio in San Antonio, 102-96.... The Sonics now have the best record in the NBA at 16-3... :sweat:
10 Dec 2004, 14:19 #412
Oh man: T-Mac hits four three-pointers in the last 35 seconds of the game as the Rockets stun the Spurs, 81-80... :sweat: :sweat:


Seattle wins again, beating Dallas, 107-102.... Now they're 17-3...

What is going on???? :shocked:
11 Dec 2004, 09:24 #413
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1940902

Mailman's ticked. Looks like Kobe is driving everyone out of Hollywood. Personally I think the Lakers should have gotten rid of Kobe instead of Shaq. Good big men are much harder to find than guards. Kobe can be easily replaced where as centers can't. Lakers picked the wrong guy to invest in. Maybe a C-Webb plus Christie and some first rounders for Kobe might help both teams :hehe: :hehe:
11 Dec 2004, 09:38 #414
eltinator wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1940902

Mailman's ticked. Looks like Kobe is driving everyone out of Hollywood. Personally I think the Lakers should have gotten rid of Kobe instead of Shaq. Good big men are much harder to find than guards. Kobe can be easily replaced where as centers can't. Lakers picked the wrong guy to invest in. Maybe a C-Webb plus Christie and some first rounders for Kobe might help both teams :hehe: :hehe:


Kobe has so much pull in LA, makes you wonder who really owns the team.
11 Dec 2004, 12:22 #415
eltinator wrote:Mailman's ticked.

I think he's looking for excuses to get out of L.A. and everyone's on the "I hate Kobe" bandwagon, so.........

Looks like Kobe is driving everyone out of Hollywood. Personally I think the Lakers should have gotten rid of Kobe instead of Shaq.

Not a chance. As I mentioned in the past, the Big Doofus has no dedication to the game, other than to further his mediocre rapping career... If that goon stayed, would he have lost the 30-40 lbs. that he did in Miami?? NO.

Now that he's been purged from L.A., he's trying to make a point. If he took care of himself previously, he'd still be here, and they mighta beat Detroit....

Yeah, he's made Miami a contender but will that put them over the top? NO.

Kobe is by no means perfect, but at least he's dedicated to the game... I just hope he learns to be a full-time team player, 'cause shooting 7-23 isn't gonna carry the team much. :sweat:
11 Dec 2004, 13:09 #416
bmwracer wrote:
Not a chance. As I mentioned in the past, the Big Doofus has no dedication to the game, other than to further his mediocre rapping career... If that goon stayed, would he have lost the 30-40 lbs. that he did in Miami?? NO.

Now that he's been purged from L.A., he's trying to make a point. If he took care of himself previously, he'd still be here, and they mighta beat Detroit....

Yeah, he's made Miami a contender but will that put them over the top? NO.

Kobe is by no means perfect, but at least he's dedicated to the game... I just hope he learns to be a full-time team player, 'cause shooting 7-23 isn't gonna carry the team much. :sweat:


Well I'm just saying that the organization should have backed Shaq and treated him as the franchise player over Kobe. Are the Lakers better with or without Shaq? Of course with him. Their struggles this year is indication of that. You can trade Kobe and get a T-mac in return but when they traded Shaq, it was trading gold for crap. In fantasy NBA we say that isn't possible cause people would veto that trade and even still Miami had the better hand in the deal.

I think Kobe's struggles this year is more from the way the defenses are playing him. He's a great competitor but you can't beat the double team every night. When Kobe played with Shaq he was the best one on one player that got to play one on one. Now Kobe faces a double team every night! He literally fed off the big doofus as you put it and everyone knows it. Regardless of how over weight Shaq was, he still demanded the double team and that opened up Kobe's game.
11 Dec 2004, 14:37 #417
eltinator wrote:Well I'm just saying that the organization should have backed Shaq and treated him as the franchise player over Kobe. Are the Lakers better with or without Shaq? Of course with him. Their struggles this year is indication of that. You can trade Kobe and get a T-mac in return but when they traded Shaq, it was trading gold for crap. In fantasy NBA we say that isn't possible cause people would veto that trade and even still Miami had the better hand in the deal.

I think Kobe's struggles this year is more from the way the defenses are playing him. He's a great competitor but you can't beat the double team every night. When Kobe played with Shaq he was the best one on one player that got to play one on one. Now Kobe faces a double team every night! He literally fed off the big doofus as you put it and everyone knows it. Regardless of how over weight Shaq was, he still demanded the double team and that opened up Kobe's game.

By your previous comment about trading Kobe for Shaq, they'd have the same problem: the double or triple team on Shaq would force one of the other Lakers to step up and there isn't one to do that. At least consistently.

So the choice was an aging, overweight, and oft-injured Shaq or a young, dynamic, but erratic (at times) Kobe. Add to that Shaq wanted more money, this after his worst season as a pro.

If Shaq wanted to be the franchise player, he shoulda lived up to his end of the bargain and stayed healthy and in shape. He didn't.

Jerry Buss wanted a Showtime-like team and that required youth and runners, so Shaq was gone.
11 Dec 2004, 15:23 #418
bmwracer wrote:
By your previous comment about trading Kobe for Shaq, they'd have the same problem: the double or triple team on Shaq would force one of the other Lakers to step up and there isn't one to do that. At least consistently.

So the choice was an aging, overweight, and oft-injured Shaq or a young, dynamic, but erratic (at times) Kobe. Add to that Shaq wanted more money, this after his worst season as a pro.

If Shaq wanted to be the franchise player, he shoulda lived up to his end of the bargain and stayed healthy and in shape. He didn't.

Jerry Buss wanted a Showtime-like team and that required youth and runners, so Shaq was gone.


You could get a good jump shooter or a budding guard for kobe and more. Like I said before, guards are plenty in the league where as centers aren't. Just look at the players who want to be traded, they could have gotten a Vince Carter or maybe a Baron Davis or someone else. Doesn't really help when you trade a great player for a couple of average players :sweat:
11 Dec 2004, 15:59 #419
bmwracer wrote:Oh man: T-Mac hits four three-pointers in the last 35 seconds of the game as the Rockets stun the Spurs, 81-80... :sweat: :sweat:


Seattle wins again, beating Dallas, 107-102.... Now they're 17-3...

What is going on???? :shocked:


The end of the Rockets/Spurs game was one of the most amazing things I've ever seen. :shocked:
11 Dec 2004, 16:10 #420
mvc wrote:

The end of the Rockets/Spurs game was one of the most amazing things I've ever seen. :shocked:


Major fantasy pts there too :hehe: :hehe:

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