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Yeah, saw the ending of the Heat and Kings game, all i have to say is that the Kings gave it up, but the Heat are definitely a major force with Shaq in the middle.
Kobe vs. Shaq. game it might be close, but i don't like kobe and i think the lakers should lose.
i hope that shaq does this to kobe game time: :beatyou:
yeah,
watched the game. I was amazed by Kobe's scoring, he is virtually unstoppable. But he somehow just stopped after shaq fouled out. I am sure that the Lakers miss his tough inside presence, altering shots, blocks, toughness, But the lakers are adjusting ok.
The game could have gone either way, somehow i feel that Shaq is not as dominating as before when he was on the Lakers, he is a better team player.
anyhow, Heat managed to pull that one out, it could have gone either way. I underestimate the lakers at times, but i still like the heat better.
:doh: :applaud:
Kobe still makes a lot of mistakes, especially for a veteran: he over-dribbles, gets caught in the air way too much, and still hogs the ball... Lamar Odom was a non-factor until the latter part of the game. Kobe has got to get the other players involved at the start of the game or else they're just standing around watching him.
yeah Kobe is a major ball hog(look at his shooting percentages) with a lot of talent. I suppose Shaq's numbers are lower but his shooting percentage is up around 60% and he is passing well and putting up decent numbers, but most importantly his team is winning and in first in their division, enough said there.
Lakers are a good team, but it seems like there are no other solid players besides Kobe. I honestly didn't know that Lamar Odom can hurl and make so many three's. He got kind of lucky there. Their bench is weak compared to other teams.
they will probably make the playoffs, but how will they compete in a best of seven games versus Miami, Phoenix, Detroit, or San Antonio? They lack depth and have no solid inside game. That is my analysis.
:beaten: Kobe after running into shaq-the brick wall
Magic Johnson-Show Time of the 80's !!!! :victory:
Well, the NBA was a little more exciting in some ways back then. Better shooting, better passing. Larry Bird, Chris Mullin, Reggie Miller(still playing), eddie johnson, Jeff Hornacek, Drazen Petrovic, John Stockton and other players that could shoot the lights out.
Let's not forgot the legend player great of all time Michael Jordan. :bow:
But Magic Johnson ran the break like no other, at 6'9" he was the only player i knew of that played all five positions in one season and won the title that same year, i think. Enough Said. :bow: :applaud:
qilver wrote:Lakers are a good team, but it seems like there are no other solid players besides Kobe. I honestly didn't know that Lamar Odom can hurl and make so many three's. He got kind of lucky there. Their bench is weak compared to other teams.
Lamar is just too passive as are most of the other players on the team: they all defer to Kobe.
Until Kobe learns (soon, hopefully) to get his teammates involved on a regular basis, the Lakers are gonna be an average to slightly-better-than-average team...
Kobe proved his point (sort of) in today's game, but they lost.
i actually was expecting the lakers/heat game to be like that. usually, when they hype up a game that much, it doesn't live up to it. although i WAS hoping to see that corvette/brickwall thing. :hehe:
jholic wrote:although i WAS hoping to see that corvette/brickwall thing. :hehe:
It sorta happened, but it was all clean... There was NO way that Shaq was gonna be flagrant, especially on national TV... He didn't want to come off as a bigger jerk than he already is...
bmwracer wrote:
It sorta happened, but it was all clean... There was NO way that Shaq was gonna be flagrant, especially on national TV... He didn't want to come off as a bigger jerk than he already is...
No offense but from what the media is portraying, the bigger jerk seems to Kobe. I haven't heard one good story about Kobe lately while I hear all about Shaq losing weight and bringing Miami to life and putting fans into the seats etc.
eltinator wrote:No offense but from what the media is portraying, the bigger jerk seems to Kobe.
Exactly. The media is portraying Kobe as the jerk, 'cause he's still with the Lakers and Phil and Shaq are gone, so it's his fault... Simple logic, right?
I haven't heard one good story about Kobe lately while I hear all about Shaq losing weight and bringing Miami to life and putting fans into the seats etc.
Well, why couldn't he lose weight in L.A.??
And he's still (subtly) bad mouthing Kobe in Miami... Kobe's taken the high road and moved on, but Shaq's still playing the media to his advantage, but everyone seems to overlook that.....
bmwracer wrote:
Exactly. The media is portraying Kobe as the jerk, 'cause he's still with the Lakers and Phil and Shaq are gone, so it's his fault... Simple logic, right?
Well, from Phil's statement about not wanting to coach Kobe and Shaq being fed up with him, to me it looks more like Kobe's fault. Personally, you go against Phil Jackson who has 9 rings, I'm going to stand with Phil, especially since I was a Bull's fan back in the day. Also Phil was the coach, Kobe was the player, you gotta listen to your coach. I haven't read the book yet but at least I haven't heard any quotes of Phil saying he wanted to leave because of Shaq.
bmwracer wrote:
Well, why couldn't he lose weight in L.A.??
And he's still (subtly) bad mouthing Kobe in Miami... Kobe's taken the high road and moved on, but Shaq's still playing the media to his advantage, but everyone seems to overlook that.....
I will say that Shaq's always been good with the media so it's obvious that people will side with the big fella over Kobe. Shaq's funny and him running over people makes my grandpa laugh all the time.
But what Kobe has to do is embrace the dark side. If people hate him and the media wants to tarnish his image then so be it. Give the Barry Bond's "I don't give a crap" attitude back. I'm a Bond's fan and I can't commend Bond's attitude to the media more. Sports players are supposed to concentrate on the game so whocares what others think, right? But that apology on ESPN to Shaq pretty much ruined Kobe's image more. It was almost laughable for him to do such a thing and then saying he didn't have Shaq's number... :sweat:
eltinator wrote:Well, from Phil's statement about not wanting to coach Kobe and Shaq being fed up with him, to me it looks more like Kobe's fault.
Like I said: they're gone, so it has to Kobe's fault.
Everyone seems to forget that Shaq wanted a contract extension after the lowest scoring season if his career, numerous injuries, and increased weight... Blaming Kobe was easy to cover up his greed after a subpar season.
Also Phil was the coach, Kobe was the player, you gotta listen to your coach.
Oh yeah, like Shaq never had any disagreements with Phil regarding his FT shooting among other things...
I will say that Shaq's always been good with the media so it's obvious that people will side with the big fella over Kobe.
Exactly. So Kobe is the bad guy and Shaq has a halo over his head.
But that apology on ESPN to Shaq pretty much ruined Kobe's image more. It was almost laughable for him to do such a thing and then saying he didn't have Shaq's number... :sweat:
I don't see why Kobe's trying taking the high road makes him the bad guy... He's tried to move on and the media won't let him, so he's the bad guy... Shaq continues to zing Kobe in the media, so Kobe's the bad guy.
Geezer wrote:The important thing to remember is that the mighty mighty Warriors beat the pissant Kings tonight.
Of course. :mrgreen:
pissant
Main Entry: piss·ant
Pronunciation: 'pis-"ant
Function: noun
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: pissant ant, from 1piss + ant
sometimes vulgar : one that is insignificant -- used as a generalized term of abuse
Geezer wrote:Hummph. I would have tought it was a specific term of abuse.
You live, you learn.
There was another word that you used previously that cracked me up, but I can't remember it... Not sure if you used in in this thread or the NFL or MLB threads... :headscratch:
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