Video Recording/Playback/Editing/Converting/etc.

Started by eightysix · 11 Nov 2004 · 2,532 replies

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13 Oct 2006, 08:22 #721
OK i think i have it sorted now. I used VirtualDubMod to create a new .avi with hardsubs, then converted it to .vob with winavi video converter. I have tried playing the .vob in WMP and everything appears to be in sync. Now I just have to burn it to DVD :)

Although I had a false start there. I downloaded TMPGEnc and tried it, but forgot to set which compression to use. So it had no compression, and my output file was 59G at 30% completed! :banghead:

Hey, I never knew you had to pay for TMPGEncPlus to get MPEG-2 encoding :( I'd rather use something free :)
13 Oct 2006, 09:13 #722
Anime Dad wrote:Hey, I never knew you had to pay for TMPGEncPlus to get MPEG-2 encoding :( I'd rather use something free :)

It is free if you have the hack. :beaten:
13 Oct 2006, 09:17 #723
I'm sure it is ;) Just like winavi was ;)
13 Oct 2006, 09:21 #724
Anime Dad wrote:I'm sure it is ;) Just like winavi was ;)

There ya go. :victory:
13 Oct 2006, 13:28 #725
bmwracer wrote:
It is free if you have the hack. :beaten:


I knew you would say that :hehe:
13 Oct 2006, 21:51 #726
Saito_Hajime wrote:I knew you would say that :hehe:

Welcome to my world. :victory:
13 Oct 2006, 23:16 #727
BMW,

I just found out that you can point directly to the VOB file in the ts_video folder with VitualDub Mod so you don't have to do the tmpgenc DVD author clipping first and get all those segments.

How do you output mpeg from Virtual Dub.... the quality degradation is pretty bad for the AVI output. Read something about frameset which lets you I guess put out mpeg... do you know anything about that? :doh:
14 Oct 2006, 01:42 #728
ralphm1999 wrote:BMW,

I just found out that you can point directly to the VOB file in the ts_video folder with VitualDub Mod so you don't have to do the tmpgenc DVD author clipping first and get all those segments.

How do you output mpeg from Virtual Dub.... the quality degradation is pretty bad for the AVI output. Read something about frameset which lets you I guess put out mpeg... do you know anything about that? :doh:

Ralph,

I only use VirtualDub for AVIs... There must be an output quality selection somewhere in VirtualDub, ne?

To convert MPEG2 to AVI, I use AutoGK....
14 Oct 2006, 12:13 #729
ralphm1999 wrote:

I just found out that you can point directly to the VOB file in the ts_video folder with VitualDub Mod so you don't have to do the tmpgenc DVD author clipping first and get all those segments.

How do you output mpeg from Virtual Dub.... the quality degradation is pretty bad for the AVI output. Read something about frameset which lets you I guess put out mpeg... do you know anything about that? :doh:


You mean you want to have a mpeg2 output from a mpeg2 source? It is kinda difficult doing that especially with virtualdubmod because that tool is actually for conversion of stuff to different format (like mpeg2 to avi). It can re-write avis (output and source is the same format with some modifications in the output), but I don't think this tool is capable of re-writing other formats. :sweat:
14 Oct 2006, 13:23 #730
If you're trying to re-encode an MPEG2 to make it smaller, the easiest (and best) program to use is ReJig. :)
14 Oct 2006, 14:43 #731
bmwracer wrote:If you're trying to re-encode an MPEG2 to make it smaller, the easiest (and best) program to use is ReJig. :)


nope.. none of the above. I'm using virtualdubmod to merge the subtitle file with the mpeg2 file and I want to have an mpeg2 with hard subs output. I thought that's what you told me you used virualdub mod for to merge the subtitle file. :banghead:
14 Oct 2006, 15:20 #732
ralphm1999 wrote:nope.. none of the above. I'm using virtualdubmod to merge the subtitle file with the mpeg2 file and I want to have an mpeg2 with hard subs output. I thought that's what you told me you used virualdub mod for to merge the subtitle file. :banghead:

Almost.

I use VirtualDub to merge an AVI file with its companion subtitle file. :sweat:


I've never merged an MPEG2 with a subtitle file.

Yet.
15 Oct 2006, 08:49 #733
bmwracer wrote:
Almost.

I use VirtualDub to merge an AVI file with its companion subtitle file. :sweat:


I've never merged an MPEG2 with a subtitle file.

Yet.


Here's what I did. I took the first raw episode of Kekkon No Otono(or whatever it's called) DVD that my friend in Tokyo sent me. I used TMPGenc DVD author to get rid of the commercials. Took the output and used it as input to TMPGEnc DVD author to make those mpeg2 clips you told me how to do. Then I converted the .srt file to .ssa. Laboriously I then synced the subs to the mpeg2 segments with subtitle workshop. merged each mpeg2 with it's corresponding .ssa segment with vitualdubmod and got AVI outputs. Used av2dvd to convert avi back to dvd. used tmpgenc dvd author to join all segments into single file and create a menu.

The final output was good except that there were some artifacts in fast moving objects and the entire screen was slightly squished into a pseudo letterbox format which of course caused some distortion of vertical figures.

I assume that the virtualdub to avi conversion introduced the artifacts and after some research it was av2dvd that caused the letterbox effect. I found no controls in av2dvd to prevent the squishing.

I need to find a subtitle merging with mpeg 2 software that will not convert to avi as virtualdub does.... but will simply put out a new mpeg2 file with the hard subs.

:yell: Anybody know of something so practical and usefull?
15 Oct 2006, 13:47 · edited #734
ralphm1999 wrote:

Here's what I did. I took the first raw episode of Kekkon No Otono(or whatever it's called) DVD that my friend in Tokyo sent me. I used TMPGenc DVD author to get rid of the commercials. Took the output and used it as input to TMPGEnc DVD author to make those mpeg2 clips you told me how to do. Then I converted the .srt file to .ssa. Laboriously I then synced the subs to the mpeg2 segments with subtitle workshop. merged each mpeg2 with it's corresponding .ssa segment with vitualdubmod and got AVI outputs. Used av2dvd to convert avi back to dvd. used tmpgenc dvd author to join all segments into single file and create a menu.

The final output was good except that there were some artifacts in fast moving objects and the entire screen was slightly squished into a pseudo letterbox format which of course caused some distortion of vertical figures.

I assume that the virtualdub to avi conversion introduced the artifacts and after some research it was av2dvd that caused the letterbox effect. I found no controls in av2dvd to prevent the squishing.

I need to find a subtitle merging with mpeg 2 software that will not convert to avi as virtualdub does.... but will simply put out a new mpeg2 file with the hard subs.

:yell: Anybody know of something so practical and usefull?

Yikes. Talk about a convoluted process.

You had to completely re-time the subs to the video... What a tedious task... I don't think there's any way of avoiding that.

I'm going to attempt to hardsub the Nyokei Kazoku episodes you sent me, then re-author the DVD with English menus... I'm still planning my attack right now... :sweat:
15 Oct 2006, 13:58 #735
Ralph, I think you really can't avoid frameserving at this point. You should really try frameserving with virtualdubmod, that way you don't have to make an avi output and encode it back to mpeg-2. But before doing that, make sure have installed the "handler". To do that, go to the Virtualdubs folder and run auxsetup.exe and hit the button Install Handler and click OK.

Do the usual merging of subtitle in virtualdubmod, after that start the frameserver instead of saving it to avi. A frameserver window will open and save your file as "*****.vdr". Upon doing frameserving you are actually creating a vdr file or a "fake" avi (this is not encoding), which is the one you will use as a source file in tmpgenc.

You may then open tmpgenc and begin encoding the .vdr file to mpeg-2 (note: frameserver in virtualdub should be running while encoding in tmpgenc).
15 Oct 2006, 16:57 #736
Man, what a convoluted process! I'm glad I didn't have to do anything like that.

My Shinobi DVD turned out great :) Now I have Ringu and Swing Girls to burn, but only Ringu has soft subs.
15 Oct 2006, 23:36 #737
Saito_Hajime wrote:Ralph, I think you really can't avoid frameserving at this point. You should really try frameserving with virtualdubmod, that way you don't have to make an avi output and encode it back to mpeg-2. But before doing that, make sure have installed the "handler". To do that, go to the Virtualdubs folder and run auxsetup.exe and hit the button Install Handler and click OK.

Do the usual merging of subtitle in virtualdubmod, after that start the frameserver instead of saving it to avi. A frameserver window will open and save your file as "*****.vdr". Upon doing frameserving you are actually creating a vdr file or a "fake" avi (this is not encoding), which is the one you will use as a source file in tmpgenc.

You may then open tmpgenc and begin encoding the .vdr file to mpeg-2 (note: frameserver in virtualdub should be running while encoding in tmpgenc).


thanks. I think that's what I'm looking for. Will try it today.
15 Oct 2006, 23:38 #738
Anime Dad wrote:Man, what a convoluted process! I'm glad I didn't have to do anything like that.

My Shinobi DVD turned out great :) Now I have Ringu and Swing Girls to burn, but only Ringu has soft subs.


How do you add hard subs into an mpeg2 file?
16 Oct 2006, 06:09 #739
Ralph, I didn't add them to an MPEG2 file in the end: I used VitualDubMod to create a new .avi, then converted that to .vob with WinAvi video converter, then burned to DVD with Nero. Fixed my sync problems :)

I burned Swing Girls last night, but I haven't watched it yet to see how it turned out.
16 Oct 2006, 09:00 #740
ralphm1999 wrote:How do you add hard subs into an mpeg2 file?

I'm still reading up on that.

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