Go: Hime-tachi no Sengoku - 2011 NHK Taiga

Started by bmwracer · 5 Jul 2010 · 1,735 replies

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14 Apr 2011, 10:00 #1101
Thank you for the subs! :woot:

Liubeibei wrote:Regarding the wet nurses, from what I've been gathered, the high ranking women tend to be too busy (especially those who gave births frequently) to nurse their children.

Busy?? :crazy: What kind of activities do they have that they don't have time to breast-feed their babies? :crazy: As far as I see Ichi's daily activities, she has only done incense burning, embroidery, and all, to me it looks like things done only to kill time. They got their foods cooked by the servants, they got their hair combed by their maids, seriously I think all princesses in Sengoku era are very "hima" :mrgreen:


Liubeibei wrote:Besides, since the wet nurses are also going to be the "teachers/advisors" of their young masters/ladies, having this kind of a bond wouldn't be a bad thing either.

Rather than advisors, they look like personal maids, to me^^[/quote]
14 Apr 2011, 10:35 #1102
Maybe by "busy" it means they would rather do those "elegant" things than "chores."

I talked to my mom regarding this. She told me that she and her siblings each had their own wet nurse (this was Vietnam in the 1930-40s).

To her it was almost like a wealthy family thing, hiring wet nurses from less-than-wealthy families, and the ones in her family went back home after the breastfeeding months were finished, instead of following the babies for life.
14 Apr 2011, 10:37 #1103
bmwracer wrote:
"Sugoi...!" :hehe:

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:crazy: I can literally hear her voice in my head now :hehe:

BTW, is Saeko's real life voice really like that as in the drama? Just wondering.
14 Apr 2011, 11:17 #1104
Liubeibei wrote: :crazy: I can literally hear her voice in my head now :hehe:

Hehe. :hehe:

BTW, is Saeko's real life voice really like that as in the drama? Just wondering.

I think so.
14 Apr 2011, 11:21 #1105
Liubeibei wrote:Maybe by "busy" it means they would rather do those "elegant" things than "chores."

I talked to my mom regarding this. She told me that she and her siblings each had their own wet nurse (this was Vietnam in the 1930-40s).

To her it was almost like a wealthy family thing, hiring wet nurses from less-than-wealthy families, and the ones in her family went back home after the breastfeeding months were finished, instead of following the babies for life.


Hmm... I thought maybe they were trying to find good quality breast milk, or something like the high status ladies aren't allowed to breast-feed their own babies due to some superstitious or something. So I guess that's not the case...
Anyway, ‚ ‚肪‚Æ‚¤IŽ©•ª‚Å’²‚ׂĂ݂é ^_^

Yup, that's Saeko's real voice. Does it bother you? Many Japanese women have voices like that. Like, YOU... and many female seiyuu-s have that kind of natural voices. Fushigi ne^^ I never find those kind of voices in my country.
14 Apr 2011, 11:26 #1106
yanie_chan wrote:

Hmm... I thought maybe they were trying to find good quality breast milk, or something like the high status ladies aren't allowed to breast-feed their own babies due to some superstitious or something. So I guess that's not the case...
Anyway, ‚ ‚肪‚Æ‚¤IŽ©•ª‚Å’²‚ׂĂ݂é ^_^

Yup, that's Saeko's real voice. Does it bother you? Many Japanese women have voices like that. Like, YOU... and many female seiyuu-s have that kind of natural voices. Fushigi ne^^ I never find those kind of voices in my country.


And do tell us what you find out about the wet nurses :dancing:

No Saeko's voice doesn't bother me or anything haha. I thought maybe because she was trying to sound like the character in the anime, which I haven't seen yet. Makoto ni fushigi da ne.
14 Apr 2011, 11:57 #1107
I found this in WIKI:

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The 2nd paragraph quite answered my question, so raising children including breast-feeding is considered "chores" (rough work), which is why the high-status ladies aren't allowed to raise their children by themselves.

But I don't really get the 1st paragraph which is saying, that bad quality breast milk can affect the child's growth, so they hire wet nurses. Are they trying to say that the birth mothers' breast milk have bad quality? How can they know?? XD

This kind of answer my other question, too.

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So, in other words, while Ichi hired Yoshi as "wet nurse" for Gou, Yoshi might have hired "babysitter" for her own baby? lol. So complicated.
15 Apr 2011, 04:16 #1109
Watched episode 13 again... There's a lot more emotion when you have the subtitles. :sweat:

Interesting bit of history/reality irony: At Owari, Go can see Ueno Castle. :)


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And I've seen that faint somewhere before:

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15 Apr 2011, 18:11 #1110
^ :victory: hrhr, surely remember the fainting but can't recall the cause? Mongoose's bedroom's secrets song book?
15 Apr 2011, 19:03 #1111
7th-key wrote:^ :victory: hrhr, surely remember the fainting but can't recall the cause? Mongoose's bedroom's secrets song book?


that's from episode 2, when Nodame carrying "omiya" for Chiaki from Mine's uraken, and she found out that Chiaki has a girlfriend (Saiko) :hehe:
15 Apr 2011, 19:16 #1112
ingesz wrote:that's from episode 2, when Nodame carrying "omiya" for Chiaki from Mine's uraken, and she found out that Chiaki has a girlfriend (Saiko) :hehe:

:doh: mochiron! arigatou! :victory:
15 Apr 2011, 21:37 #1113
ingesz wrote:that's from episode 2, when Nodame carrying "omiya" for Chiaki from Mine's uraken, and she found out that Chiaki has a girlfriend (Saiko) :hehe:

I'm sure 7th-key knew that... She was being facetious.
15 Apr 2011, 22:00 #1114
bmwracer wrote:
I'm sure 7th-key knew that... She was being facetious.

Nope, the image in my head was blurred by Nodame's half faint when Harisen handed her the scripts for the konkuuru's final round. :nut:
15 Apr 2011, 22:05 #1115
7th-key wrote:Nope, the image in my head was blurred by Nodame's half faint when Harisen handed her the scripts for the konkuuru's final round. :nut:

But that faint was in the opposite direction.... :P

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15 Apr 2011, 22:18 · edited #1116
bmwracer wrote:But that faint was in the opposite direction.... :P

Yep, although it's also due to printed/painted material. :mrgreen:

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15 Apr 2011, 22:20 #1117
^ Ehh, that wasn't a faint... More like disorientation from data overload. :mrgreen:
15 Apr 2011, 22:22 #1118
bmwracer wrote:^ Ehh, that wasn't a faint... More like disorientation from data overload. :mrgreen:

Same for Gou: sometimes even little can be too much information. :rofl:
15 Apr 2011, 22:54 #1119
7th-key wrote:Same for Gou: sometimes even little can be too much information. :rofl:

She's just a kid, that's why. :mrgreen:
16 Apr 2011, 01:29 #1120
Juri-chan sure is fainting a lot in dramas, her Gou is gonna faint again soon XD.

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