Go: Hime-tachi no Sengoku - 2011 NHK Taiga

7th-key wrote:arigatou zonjimasu and arigataki shiawase I know only from Taigas so I guess one doesn't have to worry about how to use them. :D

Why not? :headscratch:

Liubeibei wrote:

They sure are haha. He's saying that at the moment he's having a few drinks with Sir Katsuie, so temporarily he's not looking over the earth realm. He also thinks that Gou is beginning to sense a little bit of Sir Hideyoshi's charisma. And then finally, OH! Lord Nobunaga shows up! More drinking!

:applaud:

arigataki shiawase :hehe:

18,0% rating for episode 15

bmwracer wrote:Why not? :headscratch:

It's an historical drama, they do talk differently so I'd expect that lots of the expressions are not used anymore in common situations nowadays. :)

7th-key wrote:It's an historical drama, they do talk differently so I'd expect that lots of the expressions are not used anymore in common situations nowadays. :)

Is the way they talk that different? And how do you know?

bmwracer wrote:
Is the way they talk that different? And how do you know?

Very different, many verb conjugations are different as well.

The most respectful thank you I was taught in school is domo arigato gozaimasu. You just don't hear arigato zonjimasu or arigataki shiawase unless you're watching a jidaigeki drama.

I almost hope I can take the JLPT in ancient Japanese now...lol.

Liubeibei wrote:The most respectful thank you I was taught in school is domo arigato gozaimasu.

Yeah, that's what I remember... The other phrases are completely foreign (no pun intended) to me.

Liubeibei wrote:I almost hope I can take the JLPT in ancient Japanese now...lol.

Doesn't NHK have a TLPT - Taiga Language Proficiency Test? :beaten:
http://www9.nhk.or.jp/go/premium/quiz.html

The 15 ep. was a bit slow, lots of dialog that develops the characters, but it's okay!
Saji had only a couple minutes of screen time... ILll miss him XDDD
Gou and Saru scene was so dramatic!

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No Cha-cha! noooooooooooooooooooo!! XDDD

^ Bleah. :bleh:

Episode 15 is up! :woot:

http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/viewtopic_95018.htm

Cagallisan wrote:The 15 ep. was a bit slow, lots of dialog that develops the characters, but it's okay!
Saji had only a couple minutes of screen time... ILll miss him XDDD

I think we can say Ep15 is a filler episode^^ How they explain Saru's actions and how Gou start to look at him in a different light is...umm.. I dunno, I just don't buy it. And I thought, rather than Gou, shouldn't it be Chacha who starts to see him in a different light?

Hopefully, things start to move forward next Sunday!^^

^ Almost like a character and sound stage showcase.
Anyway I'm waiting for the golden tea room!

Question: I see sometimes Taigas are divided in seasons. Is this year's Taiga divided in seasons too?

7th-key wrote:Question: I see sometimes Taigas are divided in seasons. Is this year's Taiga divided in seasons too?

They are?

I never noticed that... Of course, for a number of Taigas I've lost interest 1/4 or 1/3 of the way through... :sweat:

7th-key wrote:Question: I see sometimes Taigas are divided in seasons. Is this year's Taiga divided in seasons too?

As far as I know, only RYOMADEN that was clearly divided into seasons, with each seasons having proper titles. I think none of the other taiga dramas have done that before. Some taigas in the early 90s like Ryukyu no Kaze or Homura Tatsu were divided into 3-4 parts though, with each parts having different leading characters.

But in some taigas, sometimes you can guess starting which episode starts the new season, like when the story have continued to the next level or the leading character starts a new phase in his/her life.

For GOU, I have a feeling like this:

Season One / Winter - Childhood (Ep1-10); ended with Ichi's death

Season Two / Spring - Teenagehood (Ep11-24); would probably end with 2nd husband's death

Season Three / Summer - Marriage with Shogun Hidetada (Ep25-35); Gou-Hidetada's romance from hate to love, Gou's ups and downs as a wife in Tokugawa clan and not being able to give birth to a boy(heir), ends with the outcome of Sekigahara battle (Mitsunari vs Ieyasu)

Season Four / Autumn - "Siege of Osaka" battle (Ep36-47); the climax of the Azai sisters' conflicts, Gou's dispute with Kasuga-no-Tsubone, the start of Ooku, ends with... well, Gou's death.

Regarding Siege of Osaka, the history:

Spoiler — click to reveal

Lady Yodo (Chacha) appointed Hatsu as Toyotomi's emissary for peace negotiation, with Ieyasu's agreement, because Hatsu is both Yodo(Toyotomi) and Gou(Tokugawa)'s sister, so they believe she won't side with either of the opposing clans. But then Ieyasu cunningly betrayed them/broke the agreed truce. And it was believed that Yodo and Hatsu's relationship was broken since then, Yodo didn't trust Hatsu anymore. Looking forward to how they will depict this part of the story ^_^

^ Don't know if you noticed the b-day thread, but tanjobi omedeto, yani_chan! :victory:

bmwracer wrote:^ Don't know if you noticed the b-day thread, but tanjobi omedeto, yani_chan! :victory:

Eh?? Ahh, thank youuuu!! Didn't know there's a bday thread! *runs off to bday thread*

yanie_chan wrote:Eh?? Ahh, thank youuuu!! Didn't know there's a bday thread! *runs off to bday thread*

LOL. :rofl:

There's more to life than just dramas, y'know. :P

7th-key wrote:
Gozaimasu is the polite form of "to be/exist" while zonjimasu (zonjiru) is humble for "feel/think/know".
I think literally those expressions mean "This is a thing to be thankful for" vs. "I feel this is a thing to be thankful for".
Basically "I'm grateful" vs "I feel grateful".

My favorite is Arigataki shiawase ~ "Thank you for my happiness".

Love the richness of the language, worth to learn :D
sometimes you can tell the person/ the situation by the language they used

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someone please explain why they symbolize by those animal (based on each clan)?
and what animal was GOU, was that a bear (?) ... and why three rules has same symbolize as GOU /just curios :mrgreen:

ps: happy b-day yanie_chan :applaud:

yanie_chan wrote:
Eh?? Ahh, thank youuuu!! Didn't know there's a bday thread! *runs off to bday thread*

Selamat Ulang Tahun yanie_chan :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: