Marriage

bmwracer wrote:
I agree wholeheartedly. But at that point in time, logic/pragmatism didn't take hold for some reason. :sweat: :banghead:

Well, cheer up.:patpat: Lesson learned and must move on and all that good mess. What's that saying, "Better to have loved than to have never loved at all?" Better to have bought an expensive ring, received it back and never make the same mistake twice (or heaven forbid, thrice!) ?? Kind of applicable! I've done some similarly A-Class ridiculous things....I just feel good knowing that 1) I wasn't completely jaded and 2) I'll never do them again, haha.

qilver wrote:

anyone high maintenance is not good.....too much work and demanding.... :sweat: :beaten: :banghead:

but learning to cook, anyone can learn if they are willing to put out the effort and patience. :bonk:

it's a two way street..

guys should pull in some weight too.

littlemissfab wrote:

it's a two way street..

guys should pull in some weight too.

where's my hermes scarf you ask?

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I love the audrey hepburn scarf!!

she forgot the ginormous glasses (which i totally have)

You know what... it's really hard to style a scarf, I envy the French in this case

littlemissfab wrote:

it's a two way street..

guys should pull in some weight too.

exactly...but if they're not, then :tolerance: :yell: :rolly:

littlemissfab wrote:I love the audrey hepburn scarf!!

she forgot the ginormous glasses (which i totally have)

You know what... it's really hard to style a scarf, I envy the French in this case

yeah audrey hepburn...slightly more stylish than Yankumi...

when i was in Japan I asked this girl why Japanese women have this extraordinary love of Louis Vuitton and she told me that it was because of seeing Audrey Hepburn carry LV during her time as a star and as an actress in her movies....and that's all she wrote...been a hit in Japan ever since...

I saw a bunch of posters and calendars of her in Japanese shops. Most of the pictures are from the early 50's. It's almost hard to believe young teen saw her old movies.

tabana wrote:I saw a bunch of posters and calendars of her in Japanese shops. Most of the pictures are from the early 50's. It's almost hard to believe young teen saw her old movies.

Actually, Audrey Hepburn is the most popular Western "Idol" in Japan....by far......

it didn't start with women that are currently young...but audrey hepburn has been revered in japan for iconic beauty and elegance... for quite some time before she passed away....even now she is still popular. i've even seen modern anime with references to audrey hepburn. one must also remember the japanese film industry was and remains much smaller than the american film industry which exerted an impressive influence on japanese society...think of the obsession with all things western there? much of that is due to the influence of media sources such as film.

I have some other fascinating reference material to quote from but I don't have the time but read this snippet below.


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Audrey Hepburn was one of the most distinguished residents of Tolochenaz, the small village in Vaud whose authorities and inhabitants joined forces with the Audrey Hepburn Foundation to render homage to her life's work.

A busload of Japenese tourists pulls away from the Pavillon Audrey Hepburn. "Arigato!" they call, waving to Franca Price, 57, the museum's director. "Seventy to eighty percent of our visitors are from Japan," Price tells me. She believes it is because "Audrey Hepburn incarnated a simple elegance that is a strong part of Japanese culture."

Hepburn's timeless beauty is still an icon, not just in Japan but virtually worldwide.

At the moment there is a luxury watch campaign featuring her with the cigarette holder, black dress and long black gloves she wore in Breakfast at Tiffany's. Elegance is an attitude, we read in large letters alongside her image, which probably sums up Hepburn about as well as anything.

Who but Hepburn would have had sufficient cultural clout to convince the company to mention in the ad, albeit in small print, that it supports the Audrey Hepburn Children's Fund.

It seems that almost everyone think that you have to get married in order to be happy in life.
I don't have any intentions of ever getting married, but I might change my mind when I know someone I like. About having a baby, I don't think I'll have any.

It looks like I won't get married and have kids anytime soon. I'm single. =T

I guess I could get a mail order bride on the net, but I don't want to stay at home waiting for the fed ex guy. :beaten: :hehe: Oh, well...

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A busload of Japenese tourists pulls away from the Pavillon Audrey Hepburn. "Arigato!" they call, waving to Franca Price, 57, the museum's director. "Seventy to eighty percent of our visitors are from Japan," Price tells me. She believes it is because "Audrey Hepburn incarnated a simple elegance that is a strong part of Japanese culture."
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Wow :wow: amazing. Nice stuff. :thumbsup:

tabana wrote:It looks like I won't get married and have kids anytime soon. I'm single. =T

I guess I could get a mail order bride on the net, but I don't want to stay at home waiting for the fed ex guy. :beaten: :hehe: Oh, well...


Wow :wow: amazing. Nice stuff. :thumbsup:

yeah, same here, far off from the marriage thing...
gotta get in the dating game first. :doh:
mail order brides... :hehe: :headscratch:

yume wrote:Well, cheer up.:patpat: Lesson learned and must move on and all that good mess. What's that saying, "Better to have loved than to have never loved at all?" Better to have bought an expensive ring, received it back and never make the same mistake twice (or heaven forbid, thrice!) ?? Kind of applicable! I've done some similarly A-Class ridiculous things....I just feel good knowing that 1) I wasn't completely jaded and 2) I'll never do them again, haha.

Regarding #2, only time will tell. :sweat:

Not to be a pessimist, but there's also the phrase "History repeats itself" :beaten:

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Will you please stop posting pictures of Gackt?? :beaten:

bmwracer wrote:
Regarding #2, only time will tell. :sweat:

Not to be a pessimist, but there's also the phrase "History repeats itself" :beaten:

or old habits never die....
time to break them... :beaten: :beatyou:

Gackt :hehe:

good one puffs, good one.

As for me, marriage is an alien word. I really am weirded out by it.

But for sure, I don't go in "relationships" without thinking the possibilities of "the future"

.. anything else other than that, it's just a waste of time.

bmwracer wrote:
Will you please stop posting pictures of Gackt?? :beaten:

that fool wears more makeup than the woman on that book cover and still wishes he looked half as good.

tabana wrote:
Wow :wow: amazing. Nice stuff. :thumbsup:

quoatations from a fascinating treatise written in 2004 about Audrey Hepburn and Japan:



I analyse the phenomenon of Audrey Hepburnfs popularity among Japanese women to provide an example of how imagery and its eauraf can be effectively commodified, and then either attached to goods or sold as a form of media content. I argue that Hepburnfs lasting popularity is not just a passing fad, like many other imported foreign trends; rather, the (re)production of the Japanese Hepburn symbolises an integral part of the local economic etraditionf of how female idols are perceived. This can be seen by analysing the functions of such idols in Japanese popular culture and comparing the rhetoric employed to describe Hepburnfs image in the popular press, mainly womenfs magazines. I argue that the Japanese Audrey Hepburn is indeed eauthentic and originalf.

Audrey Hepburn, or rather, Edda van Heemstra Hepburn-Ruston, the Belgian-born Hollywood film-star from the 1950s and 60s, still remains vastly popular in Japan. She is popular not only among middle-aged women who have grown up watching her movies, and therefore might have nostalgic memories of her, but also among young women in their mid 20s who would have no such recollections
of her. This latter group has learnt about her either through watching old films or through seeing her ereincarnationsf in the marketplace. There is no other western idol who enjoys the same level of popularity in Japan, a popularity which endures even today, in 2004 more than a decade after her death.


since Audrey Hepburnfs first popular film Roman Holiday arrived in the antiquated fashion centre of Ginza in Tokyo in 1954, her popularity has continued, flourished, and even been erenewedf through time to the present day.


Comparing descriptions of Hepburn and the most popular Japanese idols in womenfs magazines will help to demonstrate the common ground. Hepburn is seen as an eternally young, pure, child-like woman, with desirable female elegance and a good work ethic, as well as being a good mother to her son. Amongst innumerable similar articles, More (a magazine targeted at 20 to 25 year old women) published an analysis in 1999, giving ten essential qualities of the most idolised Japanese female pop stars. The first example was the immensely popular Matsushima Nanako, a model, who is also active in television dramas and popular movies. The description of her in the article is strikingly similar to that of Hepburn. Her face is said to be amiably Japanese e‚µ‚¢, her physique
to be slender; she is described as having ea clear voice, a body with no superfluous flesh and an overwhelming sense of cleanness Ÿ‚ñ‚¾º‚Æ‚º‚¢“÷‚Ì‚È‚¢‘̂ɂ͈³“|“I‚Ȑ´Œ‰Š´‚ª‚ ‚èf. All this has also been said about Hepburn. Matsushima is also said to have a egood work ethicf—an attribute also often used to describe Hepburn.


Audrey Hepburn started appearing in commercials in Japan as early as May 1971...


The young women of the late 1980s and 90s consumed not only big European brand-names, but also more knowledge. As a marketing strategy, department stores such as Seibu offered a variety of courses to inculcate in young women knowledge of western habits and customs, and opened in-house art museums to attract the increasingly cultured consumers. Although eShibuya-Keif has now morphed into new styles and trends, Girly culture was its main component in early 1990s. For some, Girly fashion would be typically epostmodernf—it mixed and borrowed heavily from fashions of the 1950s and 60s. Amongst the phenomena of Girly culture there was a zealous consumption of the so-called Hepburn styles.

Interesting. So girls either go for hello kitty, Audrey Hepburn or some kind of kogal style. :mrgreen:

Still after more than 50 years, I must say the girl has style and elegance.

tabana wrote:Interesting. So girls either go for hello kitty, Audrey Hepburn or some kind of kogal style. :mrgreen:

Still after more than 50 years, I must say the girl has style and elegance.

no doubt that audrey hepburn is a class act...

the fascinating thing is...the immense influence and adoration of one particular woman, even after all these years...

the article goes into extensive detail to explicate the phenomenon

http://www.anu.edu.au/hrc/publications/hr/issue1_2004/6_Yipu-HRC11.pdf

Audrey Hepburn is my Miss Fabulous. No shit.

:)

She's the one who got me into bangs, Kohl eyeliners, ginormous glasses (not Mary Kate/Nicole Richie) and black :)