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8 Feb 2007, 07:54 #18361
yanie_chan wrote:

Haha....actually there are MORE Kudo's supporter in the SMAP fandom, but what makes me amazed about Vanessa is...YES! Vanessa's ENTHUSIASM about it. It always makes me smile, even though I'm not on her side :mrgreen: I think Vanessa must be the FIRST person who triggered other pro-Kudo to be more BOLD to express their positive opinion on her^^ Other pro-Kudo in other forums usually say, "Not that I'm a fan of Kudo...but...". Hehe...like so scared to admit they actually see good things in Kudo^^

Vanessa is really a rare and unique Smappy. Not just on Kimura-Kudo, but her view on other things about SMAP, somehow amazes me. Views I've never heard from other Smappies. Heheh.... I love you, Vanessa! :hehe:



All of that sonuded so cool until the ending face! Yanie! :hehe: What kind of face is " :hehe: " ??? It looks like a "just kidding, your really terrible face!"
8 Feb 2007, 08:01 #18363
yanie_chan wrote:Minna-san, I decided to share with you all, about how I really feel on the things that doesn't seem to make sense to me, about Kimura's marriage history.

I really want to be happy for him and to fully support his decision. I know he must have a happy family. I know Kudo Shizuka must be a good wife and mother. I know Kimura must be satisfied with what he has now... I know Mitsuki-chan is a strong proof of Kimura and Kudo's love. I know, I know, I know...

But these un-answered questions about the past keep bothering me....and it's difficult for me to just let go these matters. As long as it kept un-answered...I can never rest my case on this. So, I hope someone, ...Vanessa, Zephyrscarlet, Simone, or anyone else...can help me answer these questions....so I can finally be in peace....

During my first months as a SMAP fan, and heard about these so-called 3 Biggest Incidents in SMAP history that has caused SMAP almost disbanding. I always wonder why would a marriage harm SMAP?? I really don't get that. People should be happy and celebrate a marriage. How can a marriage threatened SMAP to disband?

And I heard people in Japan was shocked to hear Kimura Takuya got married. So, okay, he's the #1 idol in Japan. But, was it really that bad? He is just a normal guy too. It's normal for him to get married, desho? I always thought, weren't the Japanese overreacted about this?

And to the extent of Kimura fans terrorizing Kudo Shizuka, till she became sick and has to be hospitalized. Areee..?? Isn't that too extreme? Japanese fans were that extreme? I really don't get it. It's just like a taboo for idols in Japan to get married?

Then a SMAP fan, Kimura-ichiban, who has been a fan for long time and was there to check all the news about this told me, "There was a logical reason why the Japanese fans reacted overly about this marriage,".

The history from the VERY beginning.... This what makes me feel that Kimura-Kudo's love for each other in the beginning, doesn't make any sense... (I've posted this before, though)

In 1990, Kimura met a model named Kaorin. He was only 17 years old by that time, and Kaorin was 18 years old. Kimura Takuya was still a "nobody". Kimura said himself, that when he met Kaorin, it was love at first sight.

In mid-1999, Kimura and Kaorin ended their 9 years relationship with alot of pain. Kaorin was 27 that time, and she thought it was time for her to get married. When she mentioned this matter to Kimura, that is when Kimura realized he can't give her the happiness she wanted, due to his job. He is a member of SMAP, an idol. Probably, marriage is something he can only do far, faraway in the future. For now, he has to prior his job. Though, it hurt him, but Kimura decided to break up with Kaorin and hope she'll find someone else who can give her happiness, which is definitely something Kimura can't give.

In 26 August 1999, Kimura sent a fax to the media, he said that he feels really grateful to Kaorin who had support him all these time. And now, he is busy with his work and does not want to date anyone for the mean time, because to forget Kaorin is the hardest thing he ever has to do, and he felt he won't be able to love anyone as deeply as to Kaorin. Kimura also said, that this break-up decision agreed by both of them. And this decision has really made Kimura feel sad and hurt. From then on, what he really wants to do is only to finish SMAP Birdman concert tour and 2046 filming(which just started filming that year, remember it took 5 years for Wong Kar Wai to finish 2046 movie x)).

Two days later, Josei Seven magazine announced(after an interview with Kimura) that the main reason for Kimura & Kaorin broke up is due to Kimura's raising popularity. Kaorin want them to be a normal couple. She don't want to attract people's attention when they're on a date. Another reason is that Kimura is too busy and almost have no time for Kaorin. The age factor is also one of the reason. Kaorin feels it's time for her to get married, but Kimura's career doesn't allow this. After a discussion, they decided to break up.

In December 1999, Kimura was frequently seen together with a J-Rock singer, Kudo Shizuka. And the two were rumoured dating, since then.

In April 2000, there was a big incident in the Narita airport. The news that Kimura-Kudo went for a vacation together to Tanegashima(together with their friends) leaked out to the press. And the airport was filled with sea of people, the press, the fans who wanted to see Kimura and Kudo. This was the beginning of the uproar and it has become the talk in Japan.
The airport was really full with the press, 'till Kimura has to hold Kudo's hand and protect her from the press, he also has to calm a little kid who cried because of the press' attack.
They went for vacation in April 12th to 17th, and April 14th was Kudo's 30th birthday. The reporters speculated that they may get married soon, due to Kudo's age.

In August 2000, there were rumours that Kimura and Kudo breaking up. Due to the fact that Kudo tend to "report" to the media everytime she's going for a date with Kimura. Indeed, everytime they went on a date, there were paparazzi/reporters around, even in the isolated fishing area.
While when he was dating Kaorin, there were only a couple of time, that the reporters caught them, two of them are: Kimura-Kaorin photobox which is circulating on the net. And, when he and Kaorin went home from a gymnastic.

But in November 2000, the shocking news that has shaken all Kimura fans in Japan was announced. Kimura Takuya will get married with Kudo Shizuka who is 2 months-old pregnant.

Kimura was quite angry that time, because the press has spread the news without even asking his permission. Because, he was actually going to announce it to the public about this from his own mouth and he already planned a press conference. But then he kept going with the press conference, anyway, and explained that he has proposed to Kudo since April 2000, even before Kudo is pregnant.

Some of the press speculation, Kudo dated Kimura to get her popularity back in the entertainment world. The reporters asked her, "What do you see in Kimura?(Why do you love him?)". According to the reporter who wrote the article, with a straight face she answered, "His everything,". The reporter said, with that kind of expression, she can actually talk about her accountant or manager.
Kimura was also once asked why does he love Kudo. According to an article, Kimura answered, "Because she love surfing too, and her cook is amazing,"

In 5 December 2000, Kimura sent a fax to the media, that he and Kudo Shizuka has officially married.


Now... Let's use our imagination a bit to put our position in Kaorin's, shall we? Imagine your 9 years long-time boyfriend, is Kimura Takuya, said to you, he cannot marry you, coz of his job, and told you to find someone that can make you happy....while at that time, of course you were thinking, "How can I??? YOU're the only one who can make me happy! Where else should I find one??". But then....you try to understand his intention...and so...its over.....

It must be really hard to forget him, desho? Night and day, he's the only one you think about. Then, later you heard abt the fax Kimura sent to the media, "I wont date anyone for the mean time, its really hard to forget one Kaorin, I dont think I can fall in love this deeply anymore with any other woman,".......it was August 1999...........

Then, one day in December 1999, you heard the news everywhere, "Kimura Takuya seen together with Kudo Shizuka.........they're dating,". For me, as hurt as it may be, perhaps I'd still feel okay....I still love him, and I'm happy if he already find someone. But, a few months later........the news was, "Kimura Takuya is getting married to Kudo Shizuka who has been pregnant for 2 months!". THAT'S when I'd be mentally sick!!!!!!!! xD

It's really unfair, how can he not want to marry me, but then he marry another woman within a year?? Just few months ago, he said he still cannot forget me.....why!?



Now, my questions are:

1. WHY? Why did Kimura had to say that he still cannot forget Kaorin, but then in 4 months, he's already dating another woman?

2. WHY did he tell Kaorin that he couldn't marry her, because of his job as an idol... But he married Kudo, anyway?? What is it that Kaorin doesn't has, that Kudo has? What makes Kimura refuse to marry Kaorin, but he could marry Kudo? What makes Kaorin different than Kudo?!!

Kaorin had incredible patience to wait for 9 years, without knowing whether the relationship going somewhere or not, coz she MUST have faith in Kimura.... And she didn't like to attract attention when she's dating Kimura....but Kimura had shoot stardom and became a super idol since what...1994?? It means, Kaorin had really being patient for 5 years, even though she took alot of pressure. What more did he want??!

3. IF IT'S TRUE, that Kimura really loved Kudo and had proposed to Kudo in APRIL. Wouldn't that make him a BIG LIAR AND a BIG JERK??!? Just few months ago, he told Kaorin he couldn't marry her because of his job. And he also said he still cannot forget her!

Does love really changes that fast?? Even faster than a speeding bullet??

Yappari, otoko minna wa "Inagaki Goro" desu ka?? (haha, okay this one is a joke I borrow from Shingo :hehe:)

Please, DON'T tell me, it's just a matter of timing....it doesn't answer my questions x)

And yes, I know...it's the past.... But, I can't help but to be bothered with the curiousity. I guess...in the end, no one knows what really happened that time....and we can only speculate, that's true. I guess, I just want to share with minna on how I feel, and the reason why I feel a bit worried about Kimura's happiness.



:shamefulcry: I'm going to get back to this. Give me a few hours. I'm at work. :puppydog: :crazy:
8 Feb 2007, 08:08 #18364
yanie_chan wrote:

SMAP are the ones I circled:

[image]

Two boys between them are Kinki Kids^^



ha~~I just wanna ask you all something guys. I see that Kinki Kids close enough with their SMAP brothers, since their first debut. Everytime I watch some of smap shows, my eyes recognize that there is Tsuyoshi or Koichi between of them. I remember, when I watch music station in 1993(I can't remember the year :sweat: ), both of them were dancing with them, and then when this kinki boyz make their first debut, smap was their back dancers in MS too (ahh..maybe I wrong again..correct me pleaseee). And start from it, where smap show is, I will see whether Tsuyoshi or Koichi or both of them with other smap. Also the time where Tsu as Kindaichi, smap also behind their back, very good brothers and supporters I think. :thumbsup:

I'm a fanz of Kinki Kids too :victory: And I totally crazy on Koichi but not more than Shingo~~
8 Feb 2007, 08:13 #18365
yanie_chan wrote:Minna-san, I decided to share with you all, about how I really feel on the things that doesn't seem to make sense to me, about Kimura's marriage history....


ah~~I feel tired to read all your posting~~ :puppydog: :puppydog: But I have to read it, because I love the thing that you post~~You're good source of smappies for me yanie :victory:
8 Feb 2007, 08:13 #18366
Whoa.. I have to catch up wit so many post ah? Hehe..

I know Nakai likes Michael Jackson very much.. :victory:
8 Feb 2007, 08:15 #18367
yanie_chan wrote:

Elaine and Carol loves natto!^^ Right, girls?

I've never tried it. Should I? xD


try to~~and tell me is taste for you :hehe:

I prefer ramen and tempura only~~but sometimes I do love sushi or sashimi too
8 Feb 2007, 08:16 #18368
SMAPxELAINE wrote:Whoa.. I have to catch up wit so many post ah? Hehe..

I know Nakai likes Michael Jackson very much.. :victory:


are?? michael jackson??
8 Feb 2007, 08:25 #18369
zephyrscarlet wrote:
Yeah, that's her.

Well....basically Shingo is a fan of girls with big chests and sexy ones...soo... Haha...I REALLY have no idea what Shingo sees in her.... I dislike her, afterall...so how should I understand what Shingo feels abt her?? xD

Well...she's a good actress...but I don't think she ever had the time of glory and prime, if you meant, it was like Kudo's prime in the 80s. Iijima Naoko is probably just a B-list actress.


Wonder what Shingo thought of Koda Kumi... :sweat:
Do you know of other female artistes that SMAP members like?

I know Shingo was once in a drama with Takako Uehara. Wonder if he liked her, because :shocked: TAKAKO UEHARA IS SO INCREDIBLY PRETTY!!!!!!!!!


I think Shingo also a fan of Koda Kumi..

Shingo is a fan of sexy girl..kekekeke..than I have to be the sexy one also.hehehe :rofl: But from what I know, he is very shy with sexy girl. :doh: Corrrect me if i'm wrong. Whenever there is a show involve him with other sexy actress I can see that, Shingo looks like..not comfortable enough with her. He just look here and there, staring at that actress for a while and then start looking here and there again :rofl: Remember the show of P-chan? Norika guest actress and she wear such a sexy dress. Shingo I see just like what I say before. And when they play together he act normal again.heheheheheh :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Can't stand watching him like that~~feel very funny ha
8 Feb 2007, 08:29 #18370
Forgot to add something~~I'm a fan of Takako-Shingo :hehe: Takako such a pretty actress for me and I love her act with Shingo. But it is only in Yomagairu Kinro

Yuuka? I also start to keep my eyes on her now~~and I feel that I like their pairing now. But I didn't know that Shingo have kiss her once :shakehead: I think Shingo have kiss Mari and Arisa only~~

Mari..you guys know about Mari isn't it? Hoshino Mari act together with Shingo in Hito ni Yasashiku, and I quite like her too. The most cutiest girl have ever walk in this world.haha :victory:
8 Feb 2007, 09:15 · edited #18371
Ohayou minna-san!
8 Feb 2007, 09:16 #18372
yanie_chan wrote:Minna-san, I decided to share with you all, about how I really feel on the things that doesn't seem to make sense to me, about Kimura's marriage history.

I really want to be happy for him and to fully support his decision. I know he must have a happy family. I know Kudo Shizuka must be a good wife and mother. I know Kimura must be satisfied with what he has now... I know Mitsuki-chan is a strong proof of Kimura and Kudo's love. I know, I know, I know...

But these un-answered questions about the past keep bothering me....and it's difficult for me to just let go these matters. As long as it kept un-answered...I can never rest my case on this. So, I hope someone, ...Vanessa, Zephyrscarlet, Simone, or anyone else...can help me answer these questions....so I can finally be in peace....

During my first months as a SMAP fan, and heard about these so-called 3 Biggest Incidents in SMAP history that has caused SMAP almost disbanding. I always wonder why would a marriage harm SMAP?? I really don't get that. People should be happy and celebrate a marriage. How can a marriage threatened SMAP to disband?

And I heard people in Japan was shocked to hear Kimura Takuya got married. So, okay, he's the #1 idol in Japan. But, was it really that bad? He is just a normal guy too. It's normal for him to get married, desho? I always thought, weren't the Japanese overreacted about this?

And to the extent of Kimura fans terrorizing Kudo Shizuka, till she became sick and has to be hospitalized. Areee..?? Isn't that too extreme? Japanese fans were that extreme? I really don't get it. It's just like a taboo for idols in Japan to get married?

Then a SMAP fan, Kimura-ichiban, who has been a fan for long time and was there to check all the news about this told me, "There was a logical reason why the Japanese fans reacted overly about this marriage,".

The history from the VERY beginning.... This what makes me feel that Kimura-Kudo's love for each other in the beginning, doesn't make any sense... (I've posted this before, though)

In 1990, Kimura met a model named Kaorin. He was only 17 years old by that time, and Kaorin was 18 years old. Kimura Takuya was still a "nobody". Kimura said himself, that when he met Kaorin, it was love at first sight.

In mid-1999, Kimura and Kaorin ended their 9 years relationship with alot of pain. Kaorin was 27 that time, and she thought it was time for her to get married. When she mentioned this matter to Kimura, that is when Kimura realized he can't give her the happiness she wanted, due to his job. He is a member of SMAP, an idol. Probably, marriage is something he can only do far, faraway in the future. For now, he has to prior his job. Though, it hurt him, but Kimura decided to break up with Kaorin and hope she'll find someone else who can give her happiness, which is definitely something Kimura can't give.

In 26 August 1999, Kimura sent a fax to the media, he said that he feels really grateful to Kaorin who had support him all these time. And now, he is busy with his work and does not want to date anyone for the mean time, because to forget Kaorin is the hardest thing he ever has to do, and he felt he won't be able to love anyone as deeply as to Kaorin. Kimura also said, that this break-up decision agreed by both of them. And this decision has really made Kimura feel sad and hurt. From then on, what he really wants to do is only to finish SMAP Birdman concert tour and 2046 filming(which just started filming that year, remember it took 5 years for Wong Kar Wai to finish 2046 movie x)).

Two days later, Josei Seven magazine announced(after an interview with Kimura) that the main reason for Kimura & Kaorin broke up is due to Kimura's raising popularity. Kaorin want them to be a normal couple. She don't want to attract people's attention when they're on a date. Another reason is that Kimura is too busy and almost have no time for Kaorin. The age factor is also one of the reason. Kaorin feels it's time for her to get married, but Kimura's career doesn't allow this. After a discussion, they decided to break up.

In December 1999, Kimura was frequently seen together with a J-Rock singer, Kudo Shizuka. And the two were rumoured dating, since then.

In April 2000, there was a big incident in the Narita airport. The news that Kimura-Kudo went for a vacation together to Tanegashima(together with their friends) leaked out to the press. And the airport was filled with sea of people, the press, the fans who wanted to see Kimura and Kudo. This was the beginning of the uproar and it has become the talk in Japan.
The airport was really full with the press, 'till Kimura has to hold Kudo's hand and protect her from the press, he also has to calm a little kid who cried because of the press' attack.
They went for vacation in April 12th to 17th, and April 14th was Kudo's 30th birthday. The reporters speculated that they may get married soon, due to Kudo's age.

In August 2000, there were rumours that Kimura and Kudo breaking up. Due to the fact that Kudo tend to "report" to the media everytime she's going for a date with Kimura. Indeed, everytime they went on a date, there were paparazzi/reporters around, even in the isolated fishing area.
While when he was dating Kaorin, there were only a couple of time, that the reporters caught them, two of them are: Kimura-Kaorin photobox which is circulating on the net. And, when he and Kaorin went home from a gymnastic.

But in November 2000, the shocking news that has shaken all Kimura fans in Japan was announced. Kimura Takuya will get married with Kudo Shizuka who is 2 months-old pregnant.

Kimura was quite angry that time, because the press has spread the news without even asking his permission. Because, he was actually going to announce it to the public about this from his own mouth and he already planned a press conference. But then he kept going with the press conference, anyway, and explained that he has proposed to Kudo since April 2000, even before Kudo is pregnant.

Some of the press speculation, Kudo dated Kimura to get her popularity back in the entertainment world. The reporters asked her, "What do you see in Kimura?(Why do you love him?)". According to the reporter who wrote the article, with a straight face she answered, "His everything,". The reporter said, with that kind of expression, she can actually talk about her accountant or manager.
Kimura was also once asked why does he love Kudo. According to an article, Kimura answered, "Because she love surfing too, and her cook is amazing,"

In 5 December 2000, Kimura sent a fax to the media, that he and Kudo Shizuka has officially married.


Now... Let's use our imagination a bit to put our position in Kaorin's, shall we? Imagine your 9 years long-time boyfriend, is Kimura Takuya, said to you, he cannot marry you, coz of his job, and told you to find someone that can make you happy....while at that time, of course you were thinking, "How can I??? YOU're the only one who can make me happy! Where else should I find one??". But then....you try to understand his intention...and so...its over.....

It must be really hard to forget him, desho? Night and day, he's the only one you think about. Then, later you heard abt the fax Kimura sent to the media, "I wont date anyone for the mean time, its really hard to forget one Kaorin, I dont think I can fall in love this deeply anymore with any other woman,".......it was August 1999...........

Then, one day in December 1999, you heard the news everywhere, "Kimura Takuya seen together with Kudo Shizuka.........they're dating,". For me, as hurt as it may be, perhaps I'd still feel okay....I still love him, and I'm happy if he already find someone. But, a few months later........the news was, "Kimura Takuya is getting married to Kudo Shizuka who has been pregnant for 2 months!". THAT'S when I'd be mentally sick!!!!!!!! xD

It's really unfair, how can he not want to marry me, but then he marry another woman within a year?? Just few months ago, he said he still cannot forget me.....why!?



Now, my questions are:

1. WHY? Why did Kimura had to say that he still cannot forget Kaorin, but then in 4 months, he's already dating another woman?

2. WHY did he tell Kaorin that he couldn't marry her, because of his job as an idol... But he married Kudo, anyway?? What is it that Kaorin doesn't has, that Kudo has? What makes Kimura refuse to marry Kaorin, but he could marry Kudo? What makes Kaorin different than Kudo?!!

Kaorin had incredible patience to wait for 9 years, without knowing whether the relationship going somewhere or not, coz she MUST have faith in Kimura.... And she didn't like to attract attention when she's dating Kimura....but Kimura had shoot stardom and became a super idol since what...1994?? It means, Kaorin had really being patient for 5 years, even though she took alot of pressure. What more did he want??!

3. IF IT'S TRUE, that Kimura really loved Kudo and had proposed to Kudo in APRIL. Wouldn't that make him a BIG LIAR AND a BIG JERK??!? Just few months ago, he told Kaorin he couldn't marry her because of his job. And he also said he still cannot forget her!

Does love really changes that fast?? Even faster than a speeding bullet??

Yappari, otoko minna wa "Inagaki Goro" desu ka?? (haha, okay this one is a joke I borrow from Shingo :hehe:)

Please, DON'T tell me, it's just a matter of timing....it doesn't answer my questions x)

And yes, I know...it's the past.... But, I can't help but to be bothered with the curiousity. I guess...in the end, no one knows what really happened that time....and we can only speculate, that's true. I guess, I just want to share with minna on how I feel, and the reason why I feel a bit worried about Kimura's happiness.


Yanie....i think i re-read your post for the 3rd time!! hahahahha....i keep asking myself the same questions after reading your post...alot of why why and whyyyyyyyyy!!

Anyway, i thought a bit about it so here's my view point :
1. WHY? Why did Kimura had to say that he still cannot forget Kaorin, but then in 4 months, he's already dating another woman?
I believe when Takuya was in his lowest state of mind, and he was feeling so damn fragile, somehow or rather Kudo came into the picture, whether it's planned or not *ahem* Since Kudo is/was Takuya's idol, and in a fragile state, he needed a shoulder to cry on and she was there to lend him her shoulder. Its like an initial rebound period which later turn into (ARghhhh!! i dont wanna say this but...LOVE) Why not smap's member then? Well again, guys tend to lean more on girls and if the girl can show him lotsa attention especially during that state of mind, its a factor that can possibly lead Takuya to fall in love with Kudo.Maybe they were not "dating", they were just hanging out together, he needed someone and his idol was there....what more can he ask?

2. WHY did he tell Kaorin that he couldn't marry her, because of his job as an idol... But he married Kudo, anyway?? What is it that Kaorin doesn't has, that Kudo has? What makes Kimura refuse to marry Kaorin, but he could marry Kudo? What makes Kaorin different than Kudo?!!
Well didnt he marry Kudo because she was pregnant..??? Although he did say at the press he had already proposed to Kudo before she was pregnant but i actually dont really believe it. For me its a cover up...hehehe...

3. IF IT'S TRUE, that Kimura really loved Kudo and had proposed to Kudo in APRIL. Wouldn't that make him a BIG LIAR AND a BIG JERK??!? Just few months ago, he told Kaorin he couldn't marry her because of his job. And he also said he still cannot forget her!
If everything is TRUE, then as much as i am crazy over Takuya, yes he is a big liar and jerk. But then again, maybe he chose Kudo because she shares the same vision as Takuya? Maybe Takuya feels more compatible with Kudo in terms of job, future...
You know some people dont get married because they are in love, or madly in love or something like that. There are people who get married because alot of "other" reason.
1. Pregnancy before marriage
2. Although they dont love each other, they decided to be together because they feel comfortable with each other, its more like a companion. Furthermore if they have the same passion. Like in hanadan 2, where tsukasa needs to be with shigeru but when he ask her to be his gf, he said i will learn to like you. Love can grow, love is a learning process...i guess!


I actually wanted to write more....i love giving opinions and debates...hahahahaha.....but then suddenly my mind when blank...
Takuya a JERK? OMG.....
8 Feb 2007, 09:18 #18373
yanie_chan wrote:

Elaine and Carol loves natto!^^ Right, girls?

I've never tried it. Should I? xD


Yup i like to eat nattos....taste weird but thats why i like it...hehehe
8 Feb 2007, 09:26 #18374
QUOTE: zephyrscarlet wrote:
But I vividly remember during his marriage press conference, a reporter asked him what is it about Kudo that attracted him to her, he said "Her everything"

Her everything?????
What everything? I dont see anything....
I dont mean to be extremely rude and i do apologize to Kudo's die hard fans but i dont see anything in her.

For me, i've dislike...well i dont hate her, just dislike her Wayyyyyyyy before i knew she was Takuya's wife. I remember watching her in hey!hey! music champ and her voice was the first to ANNOY me...
When i started to go crazy about Takuya, i dont even know he was married. For me is just Takuya and everything around him does not matter.
So when i found out that Kudo was his wife, i was like WTF???? (sorry being rude again).
After a while, i couldnt care less whether takuya is married to kudo or kaorin because all i see on TV is Takuya and smap....and all i want to do is live on my little fantasy world which i have the option to imagine takuya with whoever favourite artiste i like....for example matsu.
8 Feb 2007, 09:29 #18375
Ohayo, minna!!

VanessaAyukawa wrote:All of that sonuded so cool until the ending face! Yanie! :hehe: What kind of face is " :hehe: " ??? It looks like a "just kidding, your really terrible face!"


Aack....emoticons, can REALLY give us the wrong impression, huh? I was dead serious of what I said. Its just that there's no "good smile" emoticon...I naturally always use this :hehe: for smiling....and didn't really thought that it could give a bad impression >_< Gomen ne, Vanessa!

You don't actually think I think of you as terrible, do you?? :puppydog:

Then, let me re-post this:

Haha....actually there are MORE Kudo's supporter in the SMAP fandom, but what makes me amazed about Vanessa is...YES! Vanessa's ENTHUSIASM about it. It always makes me smile, even though I'm not on her side. I think Vanessa must be the FIRST person who triggered other pro-Kudo to be more BOLD to express their positive opinion on her^^ Other pro-Kudo in other forums usually say, "Not that I'm a fan of Kudo...but...". Hehe...like so scared to admit they actually see good things in Kudo^^

Vanessa is really a rare and unique Smappy. Not just on Kimura-Kudo, but her view on other things about SMAP, somehow amazes me. Views I've never heard from other Smappies. I love you, Vanessa! ^_^


You just read my "One Night Fun in IiTomo" fanfic, right?? I won't bother to say that its dedicated to you, if I was kidding on thinking of you as a wonderful person >_<
8 Feb 2007, 09:32 #18376
yanie_chan wrote:

Eheh...no thanks :sweat: I don't want to waste my life minding other people's private lives.

I'm interested to be a novel writer and movie/drama critics...haha...


hehe yanie way to goooo!!!
Im still waiting for the 2nd episode of ur fan-fic....love, beneath the sky...
hahahaha...
8 Feb 2007, 09:35 #18377
Fye_D.Flowright wrote:I'm a fanz of Kinki Kids too :victory: And I totally crazy on Koichi but not more than Shingo~~


I respect them alot!^^ Kinki Kids are the only true musicians in Johnny's, IMHO :mrgreen:

My favorite is Tsuyoshi!!^^ Though...he doesn't look as good as he used to be now :shakehead:
8 Feb 2007, 09:39 #18378
yanie_chan wrote:Minna-san, I decided to share with you all, about how I really feel on the things that doesn't seem to make sense to me, about Kimura's marriage history.

I really want to be happy for him and to fully support his decision. I know he must have a happy family. I know Kudo Shizuka must be a good wife and mother. I know Kimura must be satisfied with what he has now... I know Mitsuki-chan is a strong proof of Kimura and Kudo's love. I know, I know, I know...

But these un-answered questions about the past keep bothering me....and it's difficult for me to just let go these matters. As long as it kept un-answered...I can never rest my case on this. So, I hope someone, ...Vanessa, Zephyrscarlet, Simone, or anyone else...can help me answer these questions....so I can finally be in peace....

During my first months as a SMAP fan, and heard about these so-called 3 Biggest Incidents in SMAP history that has caused SMAP almost disbanding. I always wonder why would a marriage harm SMAP?? I really don't get that. People should be happy and celebrate a marriage. How can a marriage threatened SMAP to disband?

And I heard people in Japan was shocked to hear Kimura Takuya got married. So, okay, he's the #1 idol in Japan. But, was it really that bad? He is just a normal guy too. It's normal for him to get married, desho? I always thought, weren't the Japanese overreacted about this?

And to the extent of Kimura fans terrorizing Kudo Shizuka, till she became sick and has to be hospitalized. Areee..?? Isn't that too extreme? Japanese fans were that extreme? I really don't get it. It's just like a taboo for idols in Japan to get married?

Then a SMAP fan, Kimura-ichiban, who has been a fan for long time and was there to check all the news about this told me, "There was a logical reason why the Japanese fans reacted overly about this marriage,".

The history from the VERY beginning.... This what makes me feel that Kimura-Kudo's love for each other in the beginning, doesn't make any sense... (I've posted this before, though)

In 1990, Kimura met a model named Kaorin. He was only 17 years old by that time, and Kaorin was 18 years old. Kimura Takuya was still a "nobody". Kimura said himself, that when he met Kaorin, it was love at first sight.

In mid-1999, Kimura and Kaorin ended their 9 years relationship with alot of pain. Kaorin was 27 that time, and she thought it was time for her to get married. When she mentioned this matter to Kimura, that is when Kimura realized he can't give her the happiness she wanted, due to his job. He is a member of SMAP, an idol. Probably, marriage is something he can only do far, faraway in the future. For now, he has to prior his job. Though, it hurt him, but Kimura decided to break up with Kaorin and hope she'll find someone else who can give her happiness, which is definitely something Kimura can't give.

In 26 August 1999, Kimura sent a fax to the media, he said that he feels really grateful to Kaorin who had support him all these time. And now, he is busy with his work and does not want to date anyone for the mean time, because to forget Kaorin is the hardest thing he ever has to do, and he felt he won't be able to love anyone as deeply as to Kaorin. Kimura also said, that this break-up decision agreed by both of them. And this decision has really made Kimura feel sad and hurt. From then on, what he really wants to do is only to finish SMAP Birdman concert tour and 2046 filming(which just started filming that year, remember it took 5 years for Wong Kar Wai to finish 2046 movie x)).

Two days later, Josei Seven magazine announced(after an interview with Kimura) that the main reason for Kimura & Kaorin broke up is due to Kimura's raising popularity. Kaorin want them to be a normal couple. She don't want to attract people's attention when they're on a date. Another reason is that Kimura is too busy and almost have no time for Kaorin. The age factor is also one of the reason. Kaorin feels it's time for her to get married, but Kimura's career doesn't allow this. After a discussion, they decided to break up.

In December 1999, Kimura was frequently seen together with a J-Rock singer, Kudo Shizuka. And the two were rumoured dating, since then.

In April 2000, there was a big incident in the Narita airport. The news that Kimura-Kudo went for a vacation together to Tanegashima(together with their friends) leaked out to the press. And the airport was filled with sea of people, the press, the fans who wanted to see Kimura and Kudo. This was the beginning of the uproar and it has become the talk in Japan.
The airport was really full with the press, 'till Kimura has to hold Kudo's hand and protect her from the press, he also has to calm a little kid who cried because of the press' attack.
They went for vacation in April 12th to 17th, and April 14th was Kudo's 30th birthday. The reporters speculated that they may get married soon, due to Kudo's age.

In August 2000, there were rumours that Kimura and Kudo breaking up. Due to the fact that Kudo tend to "report" to the media everytime she's going for a date with Kimura. Indeed, everytime they went on a date, there were paparazzi/reporters around, even in the isolated fishing area.
While when he was dating Kaorin, there were only a couple of time, that the reporters caught them, two of them are: Kimura-Kaorin photobox which is circulating on the net. And, when he and Kaorin went home from a gymnastic.

But in November 2000, the shocking news that has shaken all Kimura fans in Japan was announced. Kimura Takuya will get married with Kudo Shizuka who is 2 months-old pregnant.

Kimura was quite angry that time, because the press has spread the news without even asking his permission. Because, he was actually going to announce it to the public about this from his own mouth and he already planned a press conference. But then he kept going with the press conference, anyway, and explained that he has proposed to Kudo since April 2000, even before Kudo is pregnant.

Some of the press speculation, Kudo dated Kimura to get her popularity back in the entertainment world. The reporters asked her, "What do you see in Kimura?(Why do you love him?)". According to the reporter who wrote the article, with a straight face she answered, "His everything,". The reporter said, with that kind of expression, she can actually talk about her accountant or manager.
Kimura was also once asked why does he love Kudo. According to an article, Kimura answered, "Because she love surfing too, and her cook is amazing,"

In 5 December 2000, Kimura sent a fax to the media, that he and Kudo Shizuka has officially married.


Now... Let's use our imagination a bit to put our position in Kaorin's, shall we? Imagine your 9 years long-time boyfriend, is Kimura Takuya, said to you, he cannot marry you, coz of his job, and told you to find someone that can make you happy....while at that time, of course you were thinking, "How can I??? YOU're the only one who can make me happy! Where else should I find one??". But then....you try to understand his intention...and so...its over.....

It must be really hard to forget him, desho? Night and day, he's the only one you think about. Then, later you heard abt the fax Kimura sent to the media, "I wont date anyone for the mean time, its really hard to forget one Kaorin, I dont think I can fall in love this deeply anymore with any other woman,".......it was August 1999...........

Then, one day in December 1999, you heard the news everywhere, "Kimura Takuya seen together with Kudo Shizuka.........they're dating,". For me, as hurt as it may be, perhaps I'd still feel okay....I still love him, and I'm happy if he already find someone. But, a few months later........the news was, "Kimura Takuya is getting married to Kudo Shizuka who has been pregnant for 2 months!". THAT'S when I'd be mentally sick!!!!!!!! xD

It's really unfair, how can he not want to marry me, but then he marry another woman within a year?? Just few months ago, he said he still cannot forget me.....why!?



Now, my questions are:

1. WHY? Why did Kimura had to say that he still cannot forget Kaorin, but then in 4 months, he's already dating another woman?

2. WHY did he tell Kaorin that he couldn't marry her, because of his job as an idol... But he married Kudo, anyway?? What is it that Kaorin doesn't has, that Kudo has? What makes Kimura refuse to marry Kaorin, but he could marry Kudo? What makes Kaorin different than Kudo?!!

Kaorin had incredible patience to wait for 9 years, without knowing whether the relationship going somewhere or not, coz she MUST have faith in Kimura.... And she didn't like to attract attention when she's dating Kimura....but Kimura had shoot stardom and became a super idol since what...1994?? It means, Kaorin had really being patient for 5 years, even though she took alot of pressure. What more did he want??!

3. IF IT'S TRUE, that Kimura really loved Kudo and had proposed to Kudo in APRIL. Wouldn't that make him a BIG LIAR AND a BIG JERK??!? Just few months ago, he told Kaorin he couldn't marry her because of his job. And he also said he still cannot forget her!

Does love really changes that fast?? Even faster than a speeding bullet??

Yappari, otoko minna wa "Inagaki Goro" desu ka?? (haha, okay this one is a joke I borrow from Shingo :hehe:)

Please, DON'T tell me, it's just a matter of timing....it doesn't answer my questions x)

And yes, I know...it's the past.... But, I can't help but to be bothered with the curiousity. I guess...in the end, no one knows what really happened that time....and we can only speculate, that's true. I guess, I just want to share with minna on how I feel, and the reason why I feel a bit worried about Kimura's happiness.



Yanie, I know your trying your best to love Kudo for Takuya's sake. I know only one answer to your questions, the thing called LOVE.

No one can measure LOVE when it struck you, in second or 10 yrs you would be hooked by it theres no way out.

I think what happened to Takuya & Kaorin is an adolecent love they thought its love at first sight, at their age 17 & 18 they are trick by love, then as yrs passed by they become comfortable with each other but when they are getting older and need to settle down they cannot commit to each other. They are not ready, why? 9 yrs of being together? Thers something wrong. COMMITMENT.

If you Love somebody you are ready for COMMITMENT. Commitment and love goes hand in hand in marriage. That where Takuya & Kudo's relationship is base. Because of these 2 things Kudo can endure all the critizicism and hate, Takuya's fans will throw to her. Because of these 2 things Takuya will bear all the hurts that Kudo will received. Because of these 2 things they will FIGHT AGAINST ALL ODDS...

That is what we call LOVE L O V E L O V E L O V E L O V E

Its LOVE yanie, the most abuse word.
8 Feb 2007, 09:49 #18379
Fye_D.Flowright wrote:Yuuka? I also start to keep my eyes on her now~~and I feel that I like their pairing now. But I didn't know that Shingo have kiss her once :shakehead: I think Shingo have kiss Mari and Arisa only~~


You haven't watch Love Story, Fye? You should!^^ Shingo-Yuuka pair is really cute^^ Oh, beside with Yuuka....I reaaaally want to see Shingo-Tabata Tomoko pair again! They're so cute too!


Fye_D.Flowright wrote:Mari..you guys know about Mari isn't it? Hoshino Mari act together with Shingo in Hito ni Yasashiku, and I quite like her too. The most cutiest girl have ever walk in this world.haha :victory:


Yeah, I like her too!! But she's sooo quiet in talk shows, a very introvert girl. Oh, and she's petite too, ne! I think directors must like to pair up Shingo with petite girls, huh?? xD

However, I think Mari lacks chemistry with Shingo :sweat:
8 Feb 2007, 09:58 #18380
Carol_hunnee wrote:I believe when Takuya was in his lowest state of mind, and he was feeling so damn fragile, somehow or rather Kudo came into the picture, whether it's planned or not *ahem* Since Kudo is/was Takuya's idol, and in a fragile state, he needed a shoulder to cry on and she was there to lend him her shoulder. Its like an initial rebound period which later turn into (ARghhhh!! i dont wanna say this but...LOVE) Why not smap's member then? Well again, guys tend to lean more on girls and if the girl can show him lotsa attention especially during that state of mind, its a factor that can possibly lead Takuya to fall in love with Kudo.Maybe they were not "dating", they were just hanging out together, he needed someone and his idol was there....what more can he ask?


Hmm...yeah, I can agree with you on this...


Carol_hunnee wrote:But then again, maybe he chose Kudo because she shares the same vision as Takuya? Maybe Takuya feels more compatible with Kudo in terms of job, future...
You know some people dont get married because they are in love, or madly in love or something like that. There are people who get married because alot of "other" reason.
1. Pregnancy before marriage
2. Although they dont love each other, they decided to be together because they feel comfortable with each other, its more like a companion. Furthermore if they have the same passion. Like in hanadan 2, where tsukasa needs to be with shigeru but when he ask her to be his gf, he said i will learn to like you. Love can grow, love is a learning process...i guess!


Anooo...this is more of an answer of a question "How can they still be together by now?". Not an answer to the question I asked^^

But you're right...yeah, I can accept that way of thinking. Maybe Kimura and Kudo are great companions, great partners...and comfortable with each other ne. Dakara...their marriage lasted...

I guess, I should stop thinking too much abt the past :sweat: No matter on what way I think of it, I don't think I can ever find the exact answers, and it will just give me headache and stomach ache, lol!


Carol_hunnee wrote:Takuya a JERK? OMG.....


I KNOW!! :beaten:

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