Computers and Related Hardware/Software

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16 Feb 2006, 03:07 #1921
6G iPod.

Will definitely buy this one..

*thanks luck for waiting*

http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/10/so-this-is-the-video-ipod-eh/
16 Feb 2006, 03:10 #1922
Unless I'm mistaken, since it uses both DVI out on the video card a game won't work. It'll be displayed only on 1 part of the screen. I have two 19" CRT, it works fine in Windows for 2D stuff, but not for 3D.

When a game is in Fullscreen, it's only displayed on the primary monitor. If you put it in windowed mode and try to put it on the 2 monitors, even if there is only 1 pixel on the other display, the frame rate goes below 1fps. Same thing for Media Player. It will either be slow has hell, just displayed on one of them or the screen will just be black. :bleh:

Unless Windows can see it only has 1 display, it won't work. Sorry. :(
16 Feb 2006, 03:42 #1923
littlemissfab wrote:6G iPod.

Will definitely buy this one..

*thanks luck for waiting*

http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/10/so-this-is-the-video-ipod-eh/


you know that's a fake right?
17 Feb 2006, 12:21 #1924
Anyone overclocking their systems?


Been reading up on that... Turns out I didn't buy the right motherboard that allows for much tweaking...

I've got the FSB running about 10% faster than normal, but anything beyond that, the system gets unstable. :sweat:

Oh well. Better than nothing. ;)
17 Feb 2006, 12:25 #1925
add a few more fans. :mrgreen:
17 Feb 2006, 12:28 #1926
krim wrote:add a few more fans. :mrgreen:

Just for upping the speed of the FSB?

If I was cranking up the core voltage of the CPU, I'd do it...

Besides, I've got three fans in the bugger already. :sweat:
17 Feb 2006, 12:32 #1927
oh, i read that wrong. gomen. :beaten:
17 Feb 2006, 12:51 #1928
bmwracer wrote:Anyone overclocking their systems?...

I did it once on an old P3 450mhz. I think I got it up to 550mhz or 600mhz. I can't remember.

Let's just say I had a few problems during the 6 months period I used it. My video card died, my sound card died, 2 hard drives died, 1 monitor died and even a network card died. :beaten:

Good thing it was on warranty. :hehe:
17 Feb 2006, 13:00 #1929
tabana wrote:Let's just say I had a few problems during the 6 months period I used it. My video card died, my sound card died, 2 hard drives died, 1 monitor died and even a network card died. :beaten:

Can't see how overclocking your CPU would cause those things to tank. :headscratch:

Good thing it was on warranty. :hehe:

LOL. :hehe:
17 Feb 2006, 13:42 #1930
bmwracer wrote:
Can't see how overclocking your CPU would cause those things to tank. :headscratch:
...


Well, everything not working anymore is a common occurence when your box bursts into flames. :beaten:
17 Feb 2006, 13:46 #1931
krim wrote:Well, everything not working anymore is a common occurence when your box bursts into flames. :beaten:

Oh okay.

I guess I shoulda qualified my remark with "China Syndrome nothwithstanding..." :hehe:
18 Feb 2006, 01:38 #1932
bmwracer wrote:
Just for upping the speed of the FSB?

If I was cranking up the core voltage of the CPU, I'd do it...

Besides, I've got three fans in the bugger already. :sweat:

Anytime you tweak with the settings, you are generating more heat on the processor. (It's got to work harder handling all the extra data on the bus). Try water cooling....and don't go cheap by buying the flex tubing from Home Depot. ;) :hehe:
18 Feb 2006, 03:37 #1933
dochira wrote:Anytime you tweak with the settings, you are generating more heat on the processor. (It's got to work harder handling all the extra data on the bus). Try water cooling....and don't go cheap by buying the flex tubing from Home Depot. ;) :hehe:

I ran some benchmark tests after overclocking and the temperature rise is minimal...

Liquid nitrogen cooling was an option, but the cost was prohibitive. :beaten:
18 Feb 2006, 03:38 #1934
bmwracer wrote:
I ran some benchmark tests after overclocking and the temperature rise is minimal...

Liquid nitrogen cooling was an option, but the cost was prohibitive. :beaten:


how 'bout ice cubes from walgreens?
18 Feb 2006, 03:45 #1935
bmwracer wrote:Anyone overclocking their systems?


hai, *puts hand up :hehe: my A64 939 3000+ (stock 9x200 = 1.8Ghz) runs at 9x280Mhz = 2520Mhz) which would make it faster than a 4000+ rated CPU. which is not bad, since the 4000+ wasn't even out at that time a year ago, and at much lower price of course. (for comparison, my $150 chip gives same performance that's 4 times as expensive)

It's pretty fun, because buying a more expensive CPU that's faster is less fun to me. (and saves me lot of money) Overclocking used to be for diehards, but in the last few years that has changed. It used to be more based on luck too and a good batch of chips, but AMD always seems to have a greatly overclockable cores in the their lineup. Chips don't require as much voltage anymore and don't get that hot now.

Heat used to be enemy #1 for overclockers, not anymore. with decent aircooling, you can OC pretty well now. Even with the stockcooler you get with the A64's you can keep the temperature safe.

Even though I use H2O myself, on my other rig I still use air: Thermalright XP-90, still one of the best air heatsinks available until today. The downside of aircooling can be noise. If you want quiet you can use a more silentfan, or let them run at slower RPM. But you can also go for Zalman CPU coolers, their products are great.

agh, i could go on for days

:ashamed:
18 Feb 2006, 03:51 #1936
Terryb wrote:hai, *puts hand up :hehe: my A64 939 3000+ (stock 9x200 = 1.8Ghz) runs at 9x280Mhz = 2520Mhz) which would make it faster than a 4000+ rated CPU. which is not bad, since the 4000+ wasn't even out at that time a year ago, and at much lower price of course. (for comparison, my $150 chip gives same performance that's 4 times as expensive)

It's pretty fun, because buying a more expensive CPU that's faster is less fun to me. (and saves me lot of money) Overclocking used to be for diehards, but in the last few years that has changed. It used to be more based on luck too and a good batch of chips, but AMD always seems to have a greatly overclockable cores in the their lineup. Chips don't require as much voltage anymore and don't get that hot now.

Heat used to be enemy #1 for overclockers, not anymore. with decent aircooling, you can OC pretty well now. Even with the stockcooler you get with the A64's you can keep the temperature safe.

Even though I use H2O myself, on my other rig I still use air: Thermalright XP-90, still one of the best air heatsinks available until today. The downside of aircooling can be noise. If you want quiet you can use a more silentfan, or let them run at slower RPM. But you can also go for Zalman CPU coolers, their products are great.

agh, i could go on for days

:ashamed:

Cool. :thumbsup:

I guess the next time I upgrade, I'll have to take into consideration a mobo that's allows maximum flexibility for overclocking... My current mobo, an ECS N2U400-A, has nearly zip. :puppydog:
18 Feb 2006, 04:02 #1937
Yeah, that's why I keep an eye out on those tweaking sites, sadly it also makes me want to buy new stuff all the time. But it gives you lots of information about a type/brand mobo. and after some time they have those sticky guides about each mobo. The misconception about buying a proper OCable mobo is that it has to be expensive, it used to be true, but now it's different. Like my MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum ($140) is less stable than my Epox 9NDA+ ($90) with my Epox I can run at higer stable speeds. Just look for a board that suits your needs.

and of course there are mobo's purely made for OCing: DFI. their boards have every option you need, since their core designers are hardcore tweakers themselves :victory:
18 Feb 2006, 04:07 #1938
Terryb wrote:Yeah, that's why I keep an eye out on those tweaking sites, sadly it also makes me want to buy new stuff all the time. But it gives you lots of information about a type/brand mobo. and after some time they have those sticky guides about each mobo. The misconception about buying a proper OCable mobo is that it has to be expensive, it used to be true, but now it's different. Like my MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum ($140) is less stable than my Epox 9NDA+ ($90) with my Epox I can run at higer stable speeds. Just look for a board that suits your needs.

and of course there are mobo's purely made for OCing: DFI. their boards have every option you need, since their core designers are hardcore tweakers themselves :victory:

Good info to know. Thanks...! :thumbsup:
18 Feb 2006, 04:14 #1939
bmwracer wrote:
Can't see how overclocking your CPU would cause those things to tank. :headscratch:

It was a real piece of sh... junk. ;)

It was a custom built motherboard for an oem. After a while, they gave me another one, P3 866 with a real motherboard. It was cheaper for them than to continue replacing every parts all the time. :D
18 Feb 2006, 04:17 #1940
tabana wrote:It was a real piece of sh... junk. ;)

It was a custom built motherboard for an oem. After a while, they gave me another one, P3 866 with a real motherboard. It was cheaper for them than to continue replacing every parts all the time. :D

Well at least they wised up. ;)

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