Plastic Surgery? For it? or Against?

The Man wrote:Amen. Tha's how I feel, too.

Eh??? You've got implants?? :hehe:

Hmm in general I have nothing against people with implants :hehe: can't stop em, if they are happier after the surgery than you should be happy for them. now that would change if it's someone close though..

we don't want too many michael jacksons right? :crazy: :hehe:

bmwracer wrote:
Eh??? You've got implants?? :hehe:

Uh, no, 'racer, a heh a heh, nice to see you had a nice laugh at mine expense I would surmise; I might've thought that you probably had a better hunch that I do NOT have implants or plastic surgery of any kind. But, yeah, I think a recent trend is guys getting cosmetic/plastic surgery; but, I'm not that buncha' guys.

I mean, even if I suddenly got a huge horde of money (and who of us don't friggin' want THAT "implanted" in our respect wallets, eh?? :) ), I don't think I'd ever even start contemplating getting such procedure done for beatific reasons.

For those who can afford it and feel the need to make them feel more beautiful, I guess, if they REALLY think it'll make them feel better about themselves (and, I would say, in many cases it does), more power to 'em.

Maybe I should clarify (why don't you see I only use a portion of Akakage's quote, 'racer) that I do not have any plastic surgery of any kind.

Above all, maybe I should also clarify that I also meant to express that for some folks, plastic surgery -- admittedly, for those getting it for cosmetic, but ESPECIALLY (is mine opinion) those getting it for medically necessary-based reasons -- is no laughing matter.

I also chose to answer "Only in some cases where the victim is serious burns or scars"

With this i don't only mean accidents and stuff... There can be a problem that someone just don't think he/she is good enough and that thought is driving them crazy. If it comes to the point where it's so serious that the person might become suicidal and plastic surgery is considered the only solution (even if it wouldn't actually do any difference but just would calm the patient) it would be okay... I'm not saying that i wouldn't approve having them for other reasons but these are the situations i think they are for...

i always think it's funny how people look at such issues in such a "black or white" sense to this day.

It's as if many of you (in a general sense) either believe a patient is sick in the head and needs to destroy their face a la Lil Kim or "Jocelyn Wildenstein"... or it's ok as long as their face is practically falling off to begin with.

There are many many many procedures that fall under the banner of "plastic surgery" according to most's casual vocabulary. liposuction, breast implants, tummy tucks, face lifts, brow lifts, chin reduction, chin implants, cheekbone implants, reduction, rhinoplasties, tip refining, neck lift, calf implants, etc, etc, etc. and many variations and degrees of each.

Not everyone needs a "lifetime of surgical maintainence" in relation to each procedure.

Not everyone that chooses to "improve" a bodypart lives a life of mental anguish beforhand.

Not everyone that chooses to change something about them is trying to be something they're not.

There a lot of your favorite stars that have done things to change themselves that you maybe haven't noticed.

You electing to not change something about yourself from whichever area you dwell in doesn't make you judge and jury of all things cosmetically surgerical from where you sit... especially knowing next to nothing about the procedures outside of "the life saving" and "the bastardizations of".

I have had plastic surgery twice in my life. And I did them for a bunch of reasons...

there usually ARE a bunch of reasons for these decisions.

1) injury at a very young age

2) functionality

3) aestheticness; the idea of a "better looking me" not the idea of looking like someone else.

4) a clearer head long term while not having to ponder the first 3 reasons.

5)I do it for me FIRST. But I do know in my line of work... especially in the next couple of years, it comes to my advantage making the choice that I made.

Not everything is black or white... pass or fail... good and bad.

learn to see "gray" and quit oversimplifying simply because it's convenient.

and if I sound like an asshole with my last couple of sentences, I apologize. I just hate to see nice people get the wrong idea about very complex issues because of a few glaring F-ups.

@Ushiroyubi

You have some good points there. I myself don't have much knowledge of them as you do so i'm judging only by the things i've heard... And as you told about everything not being black and white i totally agree... The thing with me is that i tend to easily see thing black and white at first. I'll try to see thing more widely in future...

But i still stick with my last post.

I voted yes, My reason is if that is all that takes for someone to feel more comfortable and confident then more power to them. If we lived in an ideal world that people had limitless self esteem and people were not judged based on appearance I would give another answer but that is not a reality. I prefer people who are natural but people who are confident are even better.

Stumble upon this. Her clothes and accessories she designs are much much better looking than her face that's for sure. :bleh: :bleh: :bleh: Check the guy's face. :hehe:

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Fashion designer Donatella Versace and actor Rupert Everett pose for photographers as they walk the red carpet at the entry of Valentino's gala dinner at Villa Borghese in Rome July 7, 2007. REUTERS

tabana wrote:Stumble upon this. Her clothes and accessories she designs are much much better looking than her face that's for sure. :bleh: :bleh: :bleh: Check the guy's face. :hehe:

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Fashion designer Donatella Versace and actor Rupert Everett pose for photographers as they walk the red carpet at the entry of Valentino's gala dinner at Villa Borghese in Rome July 7, 2007. REUTERS

She kinda reminds me of a troll-doll with tame hair... :sweat:

:lol:

So true. :rofl:
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Fashion designer Donatella Versace and actor Rupert Everett pose for photographers as they walk the red carpet at the entry of Valentino's gala dinner at Villa Borghese in Rome July 7, 2007. REUTERS

Itai....!!! :bleh:

She oughta design a bag for her head... A prime example of the excesses of plastic surgery. :shakehead: :bleh:

bmwracer wrote:
Itai....!!! :bleh:

She oughta design a bag for her head... A prime example of the excesses of plastic surgery. :shakehead: :bleh:

fake and fugly....

bmwracer wrote:She oughta design a bag for her head...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

It's like half her face melted. If I looked like that, I'd live in the sewers.

tabana wrote:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

It's like half her face melted. If I looked like that, I'd live in the sewers.

C.H.U.D. - cannibalistic humanoid underground dwellers

tabana wrote:It's like half her face melted.

You gotta wonder if she has any mirrors in her house... She can't be oblivious, can she?

Well, like what Ushiroyubi basically said, if you're happy with it, that's all that matters, I suppose. :sweat:

Don't know. Perhaps she's happy with her face. There are lots of TV personalities with botched job that can't keep going under the knife. Could be to fix it, but they always end up worst.

Not to mention the ugly who wanted to look like a cat. :bleh:

tabana wrote:Don't know. Perhaps she's happy with her face. There are lots of TV personalities with botched job that can't keep going under the knife. Could be to fix it, but they always end up worst.

Not to mention the ugly who wanted to look like a cat. :bleh:

Who wanted to look like a cat?

I'd say only for drastic and serious things but it seems like a lot of people voted for it's okay. :sweat: Well, to each their own. Live with what ya got! Actually, I'm still okay, with tiny minor changes.

Plastic surgery is OK as long as you don't overdo it: This "woman" was married to a plastic surgeon :bleh:

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^ Dude! Is there a way to put pictures with spoiler tags?? That picture is @*&$@*&#*!!! And that plastic surgeon must be a crackhead if that's what he's getting paid for.

Eke wrote:I also chose to answer "Only in some cases where the victim is serious burns or scars"

With this i don't only mean accidents and stuff... There can be a problem that someone just don't think he/she is good enough and that thought is driving them crazy. If it comes to the point where it's so serious that the person might become suicidal and plastic surgery is considered the only solution (even if it wouldn't actually do any difference but just would calm the patient) it would be okay... I'm not saying that i wouldn't approve having them for other reasons but these are the situations i think they are for...

I agree with you here totally.