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Kimi is a word that is only used by males (just additional information)

Kimi is only used by males???

Didn't know that. Thanks for the info on that Hyde.ist

i was told kimi is used towards someone of younger age or lower status who you are fond of, or to indicate closeness

I've heard kimi used often in songs sung by female singers... maybe i'm wrong though

iez wrote:plz help me....i always heard this word from somebody....what's the meaning of 'kimi ha tomodachi' ?....i really don't understand this word...and how we should say in japanese...' i'm busy today...sorry'...i need somebody's help.....plz... :crazy: ....thanks for those who help me.... :mrgreen:

Welcome to the forum!

We have a thread on Japanese language questions already.

Merging you there.

I was told by a man who studied Japanese Language.
Because I asked if it's right to say:
"Kimi ga suki da yo" "I like/love you"
And he ment that women would use "Anata" instead of "Kimi"

Hyde.ist wrote:I was told by a man who studied Japanese Language.
Because I asked if it's right to say:
"Kimi ga suki da yo" "I like/love you"
And he ment that women would use "Anata" instead of "Kimi"

Well, 'kimi' isn't exclusively used by males, but it is used more by males.
Many female artists use 'kimi' in songs, and many of my Japanese friends that are girls use it as well.
It depends on your relationship with the person.

Eg: You would be in so much trouble at work if you used 'kimi' with your boss or maybe even some of your fellow employees. You would call them by their last name.

Food for thought,

‘‰¤š

iez wrote:plz help me....i always heard this word from somebody....what's the meaning of 'kimi ha tomodachi' ?....i really don't understand this word...and how we should say in japanese...' i'm busy today...sorry'...i need somebody's help.....plz... :crazy: ....thanks for those who help me.... :mrgreen:

kimi wa tomodachi- i would say this is more like 'you are a friend'

i'm busy today, sorry- could say 'kyo wa chotto isogashii n desu kedo, sumimasen'

I guess that's right.

Kimi wa/ha watashi no tomodachi.
would mean you are my friend

kenjilina wrote:i'm busy today, sorry- could say 'kyo wa chotto isogashii n desu kedo, sumimasen'

‚Å‚·‚¯‚ê‚Ç‚à (desukeredomo) is an even politer way to say it in which should be considered (IMO).

I'm new to the keigo part of the language, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

I've yet another question again...

What does "‚ä‚­" (yuku) mean and how does one use "‚ä‚­" (yuku), for e.g. ‰z‚¦‚Ä‚ä‚­ - must ‚Ä always precede ‚ä‚­H

Also, I have these lyrics from a song that I need help in understanding/translating:

1. ‚à‚¤ˆê“x‚ß‚®‚舧‚¦‚½‚ç ‚»‚Ì‚Æ‚«‚íÎŠçŒ©‚¹‚Ä

Does it mean "I want to see you one more time again, to see your smile (that you revealed that time)?

2. ’N‚à‚ª‚«‚Á‚Æ‚»‚ꂼ‚ê‚É‚à‚ª‚¢‚Ä‚¢‚é‚Ì‚©

3. ‚à‚µŒN‚ª—~–]‚ɍr‚ꋶ‚¤ ‘÷—¬‚Ɉù‚ݍž‚Ü‚ê‚Ä‚à

Thanks!!! :muack:

Alrighty, here we go:

(1)
What does "‚ä‚­" (yuku) mean and how does one use "‚ä‚­" (yuku), for e.g. ‰z‚¦‚Ä‚ä‚­ - must ‚Ä always precede ‚ä‚­H

‚ä‚­ (yuku) is the same as s‚­. You'll notice that when you type 'yuku' into your IME, it can change into s‚­.
It means "go," but when mixed with another verb (that's why there's ‰z‚¦*‚Ä* before it), it has the sense of how we would say "go on" as in "I want to go on living strongly." This would be:

‹­‚­¶‚«‚Ä‚ä‚«‚½‚¢B(Tsuyoku ikite yukitai.)

As for it's usage, it's a little more poetic than ‚¢‚­(iku), so you'll mostly hear it in songs, poems, etc. There are some phrases that use ‚ä‚­ instead of ‚¢‚­, such as Åæ’[‚ð‚ä‚­(saisentan wo yuku), which means "cutting-edge," but that's not to say you can't use ‚¢‚­ in that phrase either.


(2)
Also, I have these lyrics from a song that I need help in understanding/translating:

1. ‚à‚¤ˆê“x‚ß‚®‚舧‚¦‚½‚ç ‚»‚Ì‚Æ‚«‚íÎŠçŒ©‚¹‚Ä

Does it mean "I want to see you one more time again, to see your smile (that you revealed that time)?

Almost.
'-‚½‚ç' means "if" or "when." In this case, it's "if," because the speaker isn't sure if he/she will see the other person again.
So, this translates as:

"If I could see you again, please smile for me." (lit.: "If i could meet you again, please show me your smiling face at that time.")


(3)
’N‚à‚ª‚«‚Á‚Æ‚»‚ꂼ‚ê‚É‚à‚ª‚¢‚Ä‚¢‚é‚Ì‚©

This sentence seems to have a continuation, but the gist of it is this:

"Everyone surely struggles in some way or another..."


(4)
‚à‚µŒN‚ª—~–]‚ɍr‚ꋶ‚¤ ‘÷—¬‚Ɉù‚ݍž‚Ü‚ê‚Ä‚à
"Even if you're swallowed by muddy turbid waters angry with desire..."

Hope that helps! :victory:

‘‰¤š

Hyde.ist wrote:I guess that's right.

Kimi wa/ha watashi no tomodachi.
would mean you are my friend

isn't the subject often omitted though if it's obvious in terms of context? If you wanted to be very specific, you 're right that you would say kimi wa watashi no tomodachi, though.

Hi!! I was wondering if someone can help me with the translation of this phrase
Thanks in advance ^^

wakarimasuka? anata ha eigo no sukijanaidane.

Hi friends,

Can someone help me understand how to differentiate between" to tara nara ba" ...becoz they look(mean) almost same.
i need a detailed explaination please.
What are the minute differences that can make me select the correct answer,when all the four are given...

eg.ashita tenki ga yo(kereba/kattara) asobi ni ikimasu.
pls help.
Thank you.
jayati

jayatidev wrote:Hi friends,

Can someone help me understand how to differentiate between" to tara nara ba" ...becoz they look(mean) almost same.
i need a detailed explaination please.
What are the minute differences that can make me select the correct answer,when all the four are given...

eg.ashita tenki ga yo(kereba/kattara) asobi ni ikimasu.
pls help.
Thank you.
jayati

Jayati please post all questions concerning Japanese language (grammar, kanji, etc.) in the thread to which I am merging this thread.

Thanks.

‘‰¤š

Thanks for the explanation & translation Kokuou! What would we do without you? :mrgreen:

I like this thread! I'm starting with Japanese so it helps me :)

yamete_evie wrote:

isn't the subject often omitted though if it's obvious in terms of context? If you wanted to be very specific, you 're right that you would say kimi wa watashi no tomodachi, though.

Well, in the above statement, 'watashi' isn't the subject, 'kimi' is.
But Japanese can drop almost anything, as long as both parties know what the conversation is about. You don't even need verbs in Japanese sometimes!

Japanese is sometimes so simple that it's hard :hehe:

HTH,

‘‰¤š

jayatidev wrote:Hi friends,

Can someone help me understand how to differentiate between" to tara nara ba" ...becoz they look(mean) almost same.
i need a detailed explaination please.
What are the minute differences that can make me select the correct answer,when all the four are given...

eg.ashita tenki ga yo(kereba/kattara) asobi ni ikimasu.
pls help.
Thank you.
jayati

Gramatically, they are equvalent.
However, they have slight differences in their meanings, which is hard to explain.

'-to' is used when something happens all the time:

‚±‚̃{ƒ^ƒ“‚ð‰Ÿ‚·‚ƁA‹@ŠB‚ª“®‚­B(Kono botan wo osuTO, kikai ga ugoku.)
"If (or when) you push this button, the machine (will) move(s)."


'-tara' can be used like the above, but it is also has the connotation of "when this happens, then do this" or "after this happens, this will":

h‘肪I‚í‚Á‚½‚çAs‚«‚Ü‚·‚ˁB(Shukudai ga owattara, ikimasu ne.)
When I'm done my homework, I will go.


'-nara' is like the subjunctive in Japanese. It describes something (that could happen) in the future, or something that is unknown with "if":

–¾“úƒfƒBƒYƒj[ƒ‰ƒ“ƒh‚ɍs‚«‚½‚¢‚È‚çA‘‚­Q‚½•û‚ª‚¢‚¢B(Ashita Disneyland ni ikitai nara, hayaku neta hou ga ii.)
"If you want to go to Disneyland tomorrow, you should get to bed early."


'-ba' is your simple 'if' statement:

‚±‚Ì–ò‚ðˆù‚߂΁A•—‚ªŽ¡‚è‚Ü‚·B(Kono kusuri wo nomeba, kaze ga naorimasu.)
"If you take this medicine, your cold will get better."


Now, the above explanations by no means exhaust all the possible uses for each word, and there is a lot of overlap between them. The only real way to understand the difference is to use and hear them being used.

HTH,

‘‰¤š

hie

can anyone tell me what's the meaning of 'soba ni iru yo zutto'?