jayatidev wrote:Hi ,
i am Jayati.I am appearing for Sankyu this year.I have a lot of problems with bunpou.i cant understand difference between
sou and kamoshiremasen
sou you rashii
saseru ....what is the meaning when one says.....sasete itadakimashita....?
rareu
Please help.
Thank you
Jayati
Hi Jayati.
There's already a thread for questions on Japanese, with which I will merge this thread, so any other question you have, just ask there :victory:
As for your questions, here we go:
I'm not too sure what you mean by the difference between 'sou' and 'kamoshiremasen'. They mean two separate things.
'Sou' can mean 'so' like in English, but it also has other meanings.
'Kamoshiremasen' means 'perhaps' or 'maybe'.
Eg:
ˆê‚És‚«‚½‚¢‚©‚à‚µ‚ê‚Ü‚¹‚ñB(Issho ni ikitai kamoshiremasen.)
Perhaps (I/he/she) would like to go with you.
By 'sou you rashii', I'm thinking you mean the difference between 'sou', 'you', and 'rashii'.
'Sou' means two things. It can mean 'looks like' or 'I've heard', depending on the way it's used.
Eg:
”Þ‚Ís‚«‚½‚»‚¤‚Å‚·B(Kare ha ikita sou desu.)
"He looks like he wants to go."
”Þ‚Ís‚«‚½‚¢‚»‚¤‚Å‚·B(Kare ha ikitai sou desu.)
"I've heard that he wants to go."
OR
‚»‚ê‚Í”ü–¡‚µ‚»‚¤‚Å‚·B(Sore ha oishi sou desu.)
"That looks delicious."
‚»‚ê‚Í”ü–¡‚µ‚¢‚»‚¤‚Å‚·B(Sore ha oishii sou desu.)
"I've heard that is delicious."
'You' can also mean, 'looks like', but it has other grammatical functions. For this explanation, I'll stick to the similarities between 'you' and 'sou'.
‚»‚̂悤‚Å‚·B(Sono you desu.)
"That's how it seems."
”Þ‚Ís‚«‚½‚‚È‚¢‚悤‚Å‚·B(Kare ha ikitakunai you desu.)
"It looks like he doesn't want to go."
'Rashii' is a little harder. It can mean '-like' (as in "man-like," meaning "manly), or it can mean 'looks like' or 'I've heard that'.
Eg:
”Þ‚Í’j‚炵‚¢B(Kare ha otoko rashii.)
"He is manly."
”Þ‚Í“ª‚ª‚¢‚¢‚炵‚¢B(Kare ha atama ga ii rashii.)
"I've heard he's smart."
The difference here is that in the first sentence, since ”Þ(kare) implies that the subject is a male, it has the meaning of "like a X" or "-like."
Since you can't infer that someone is smart by appearances (and partly because 'rashii' comes after an adjective - which I suppose would be one of the innate features of 'rashii', but don't quote me on that one), you have to assume that it's the second meaning.
As a general rule, 'rashii' after a noun means "-like," and after an adjective means "I've heard that."
Again, don't quote me on that because there may be exceptions that I can't think of right now.
And finally, 'saseru'.
'Saseru' is what's called the "causative" in English. We say 'let' or 'make', depending on the context.
e‚ÍŽq‹Ÿ‚ɕ׋‚ð‚³‚¹‚½B(Oya ha kodomo ni benkyou wo saseta.)
"The parents made the child study."
Now, this could also mean "the parents LET the child study," but the former is more likely for two reasons:
(1) Usually, when the idea is that you "let" someone do something, the verb is in the '-te' form followed by 'ageru' (as a favor).
Eg:
e‚ÍŽq‹Ÿ‚ɕ׋‚ð‚³‚¹‚Ä‚ ‚°‚½B
and
(2) What child do you know that actually WANTS to study.
Note: 'saseru' is only used for verbs that use XX-suru (•×‹‚·‚é, etc.).
Other verbs, like those below, change form:
s‚©‚¹‚é (ikaseru) = "to make/let go"
ô‚킹‚é (arawaseru) = "to make/let wash"
•à‚©‚¹‚é (arukaseru) = "to make/let walk"
—V‚΂¹‚é (asobaseru) = "to make/let play"
Et cetera.
Now, for 'sasete itadakimasu'.
For beginners, try to just think of this as 'suru'.
It means exactly the same thing, it is just polite.
But, here is a break-down of the meaning, just in case:
'sasete' = 'to let (someone do something)' (in '-te' form here because it is followed by another verb)
'itadakimasu' or 'itadaku' = 'to recieve'
So, for example, •×‹‚³‚¹‚Ä‚¢‚½‚¾‚«‚Ü‚· (benkyou sasete itadakimasu) means •×‹‚µ‚Ü‚· (benkyou shimasu), but a literal translation would be something like this:
"(I) am receiving the thing of (you) letting me study."
which, in normal English, means
"I study."
You can see (I hope) how that would be polite.
Anywho, I gots me some fireworks to go see, so I gotta jet!
HTH,
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