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3 Jul 2005, 15:30 #781
supermidget wrote:

thanks for explaining :) does it mean you can't say "machigaimashita" meaning "i made a mistake"? or would you say "machigaemashita" (or with -te form). I mean in cases where u don't need to say what exactly you did wrong. hmm i guess if you did *something* wrong, it would always need a transitive verb right? -_- funny how one convince oneself of something different and then get confused :beaten:


You would most likely say ŠÔˆá‚¦‚Ü‚µ‚½(machigaemashita).

The difference between ŠÔˆá‚¦‚Ü‚µ‚½ and ŠÔˆá‚Á‚Ä‚¢‚Ü‚µ‚½ is the former is "I made a mistake (concerning a particular action or thing)," whereas the second is more like "I was in the wrong (in general)."

I think it's just one of those things that you have to use and hear to get used to which is used when.

On that note, I'm off to bed :sleep:

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3 Jul 2005, 17:08 #782
loris wrote:

Sometimes I can kind of get an idea of an unknown word by typing it into google.co.jp and seeing what comes up. I'm really a duffer at Nihongo and just do it to play around, but maybe you smart people who can read Kanji could try it and see what comes up?

Just a thought.

(edit: I tried this with the hiragana ‚Ù‚±‚Ä‚ñ, and I kind of get the impression the word is related to •àsŽÒ“V‘ = pedestrian mall? I also saw the combination hokoten matsuri a couple times, and ‹âÀ‚̂ق±‚Ä‚ñ)


BANZAI!!!!!!!

you hit the nail right on the head i think!

it makes sense now. the song is about the girls of harajuku who parade around the streets of harajuku most probably on sundays when the streets
are closed off becoming hokoushatengoku. in typical japanese style the word has been shortened to HOKOTEN!

naruhode ne!

thank you. it bugs me when i don't understand.

kokou is right i believe.
3 Jul 2005, 18:39 #783
kenjilina wrote:kokou is right i believe.

That guy is always 99.9% right of the time. :metaldevil:

--That .1% difference is for the time when both he and I made a "drunken" mistake translating something... :hehe:

Lesson learned: Never post translations or teach others when you've had a couple! :sweat: :beaten:
3 Jul 2005, 19:14 #784
translating while drunk is the best time isn't it?

you start a whole new language!
3 Jul 2005, 20:21 #785
ahochaude wrote:
That guy is always 99.9% right of the time. :metaldevil:

--That .1% difference is for the time when both he and I made a "drunken" mistake translating something... :hehe:

Lesson learned: Never post translations or teach others when you've had a couple! :sweat: :beaten:


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AND WHY AM I STILL AWAKE!? :beaten:

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3 Jul 2005, 20:31 #786
kenjilina wrote:it makes sense now. the song is about the girls of harajuku who parade around the streets of harajuku most probably on sundays when the streets
are closed off becoming hokoushatengoku. in typical japanese style the word has been shortened to HOKOTEN!


Oh yeah. I was there once long ago to see the bands play in the park in Harajuku. That must be the place! Makes sense to me.
Cool.
4 Jul 2005, 00:09 #787
i ususally go to osaka when i go to japan but next may i'm off to tokyo so i'l check out harajuku.

might bump in to gwen's mates!

tanoshimi desu yo!
8 Jul 2005, 12:17 #788
If you know japanese can you help me with some word that you know. Please. Thanks :fingerscrossed:
8 Jul 2005, 12:59 #789
Kashu Toshiki wrote:If you know japanese can you help me with some word that you know. Please. Thanks :fingerscrossed:


If you have any questions on Japanese, Kashu, please ask them here. I have merged your topic with this one, just in case you wondered what happened to the thread you created.

There are a lot of knowledgable people here that can help you with Japanese, but asking a question like, "Help me with some words that you know" is not very helpful. Just something to keep in mind for future questions.

HTH,
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8 Jul 2005, 23:10 #790
Kashu Toshiki wrote:If you know japanese can you help me with some word that you know. Please. Thanks :fingerscrossed:


There are many websites that offer simple introductions to words and common phrases. Here's one:
The Japanese Page

It's probably better to ask specific questions on this thread.
10 Jul 2005, 09:09 #791
What is a good translation for "doitsumo koitsumo"? I hear it fairly frequently in dramas, but it isn't the trusty old edict.

From the context it seems like people using this phrase are saying "geez, those knuckleheads". Or maybe "that lot (are exasperating)".

Thanks.
10 Jul 2005, 10:56 #792
loris wrote:What is a good translation for "doitsumo koitsumo"? I hear it fairly frequently in dramas, but it isn't the trusty old edict.

From the context it seems like people using this phrase are saying "geez, those knuckleheads". Or maybe "that lot (are exasperating)".

Thanks.


Doitsumo Koitsumo basically means "every person."
However, the translation will change with context.

Eg:
‚Ç‚¢‚Â‚à‚±‚¢‚‚àŽd•û‚̂Ȃ¢‚â‚‚¾B(Doitsumo koitumo shikata no nai yatsu da.)
They are good for nothing, every last one of them.


HTH,
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10 Jul 2005, 11:32 #793
kokuou wrote:Doitsumo Koitsumo basically means "every person."


Thanks. By coincidence with your Abe Hiroshi avatar, I just heard this phrase in Dragonzakura, episode 1, said by Abe-san himself :)
14 Jul 2005, 22:42 #794
i have some question:
from a song lyric
1."Doushite naite iru no"
Doushite = why
naite = crying
then what is the meaning for "iru" & "no"?

2. what is "~shiteru"?
e.g aishiteru, koishiteru

3. what is "~shite"?

4. what is "hanarenakute" and "mitsukaranakute"?

arigatou gozaimasu
14 Jul 2005, 22:45 #795
okay here's my turn, anyone know what does

1) Hanabi
2) Yaku soku

mean?

And how do you say Friends forever/forever friends in romaji?

any replies will be appreciated! :bow:
14 Jul 2005, 22:55 #796
sashimi wrote:okay here's my turn, anyone know what does
1) Hanabi
2) Yaku soku


hanabi = ‰Ô‰Î = fireworks
yakusoku = –ñ‘© = promise
14 Jul 2005, 22:56 #797
sashimi wrote:okay here's my turn, anyone know what does

1) Hanabi
2) Yaku soku

mean?

And how do you say Friends forever/forever friends in romaji?

any replies will be appreciated! :bow:


Hanabi ‰Ô‰Î = Fireworks
Yakusoku –ñ‘© = Promise

"Friends Forever" = ‚¸‚Á‚ƁA—F’B‚Å‚·B(zutto, tomodachi desu.)
14 Jul 2005, 23:10 #798
dochira and KameSan, thanks a bunch! ^^
15 Jul 2005, 00:44 #799
dmz_evolution wrote:i have some question:
from a song lyric
1."Doushite naite iru no"
Doushite = why
naite = crying
then what is the meaning for "iru" & "no"?

2. what is "~shiteru"?
e.g aishiteru, koishiteru

3. what is "~shite"?

4. what is "hanarenakute" and "mitsukaranakute"?

arigatou gozaimasu


And here are some answers for ya :victory:

(1)
Actually, 'naite' is the '-te' form of 'naku' which means simply 'cry'.
The '-iru' added to a '-te' form makes the present progressive in Japanese. So, 'naite-iru' means 'crying'.
As for the 'no' at the end, it's kinda like 'yo', but without as much emphasis. You could simply say, 'doushite naite iru?' for 'why are you crying?', but the final 'no' makes it sound more colloquial. It also may have been added to have the right number of syllables for the song.

(2)
Like above, '-te' plus '-iru' makes the '-ing' form.
'Shite' is the '-te' form of 'suru', which means 'to do' (most of the time).
'Suru' added to a noun like 'ai' (love) changes that noun into a verb.
So, 'ai suru' means 'to love', and 'ai shiteiru' means 'loving'.
*note* '-teiru' doesn't always have to mean '-ing'. For example, 'anata wo aishiteiru' means simply 'I love you'.
'Koi' is another word for 'love', but has different connotations.

(3)
There is no one meaning for '-shite', but the most used form is for polite commands.
Eg:
'Watashi wo ai shite' (Love me)
'Ashita wa hayaoki shite' (Get up early tomorrow)

(4)
'-nakute' is the '-te' form for verbs in the present negative.
This is usually used for when you are connecting sentences.
Eg:
'Kare wa nanimo tabenakute, soshite oyoganakatta.'
(He didn't eat anything and he didn't swim)

'Hanarenakute' comes from 'hanareru' and means 'to go away, to leave'.
'Mitsukaranakute' comes from 'mitsukaru' and means 'to find'.

HTH,

‘‰¤š
20 Jul 2005, 08:14 #800
hi guys can anyone tell me what this image says:

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thanks to anyone that can translate!!! :fingerscrossed:

:metaldevil: :metaldevil: :metaldevil:

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