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haha i see. thanks for the help ribi!

two more question!
how would you reply to these questions:
1.‚¾‚ꂪ@‰Æ‚¨@‘|œ‚µ‚È‚¯‚ê‚΁@‚È‚è‚Ü‚¹‚ñ‚©B
and
2.ˆêTŠÔ@‰½“x‚®‚ç‚¢@ô‘ó‚ð@‚µ‚È‚¯‚ê‚΁@‚È‚è‚Ü‚¹‚ñ‚©B

please please hellp me. thank you!

CHOCOLATE wrote:haha i see. thanks for the help ribi!

two more question!
how would you reply to these questions:
1.‚¾‚ꂪ@‰Æ‚¨@‘|œ‚µ‚È‚¯‚ê‚΁@‚È‚è‚Ü‚¹‚ñ‚©B
and
2.ˆêTŠÔ@‰½“x‚®‚ç‚¢@ô‘ó‚ð@‚µ‚È‚¯‚ê‚΁@‚È‚è‚Ü‚¹‚ñ‚©B

please please hellp me. thank you!

Well, the first one means, "who has to clean the house?", so you would answer:

[ENTER NAME ETC.] ‚Å‚·B

And the second one means, "how many times a week do you have to do laundry?", so the answer would be:

[ENTER # OF TIMES] “x‚®‚ç‚¢‚Å‚·B

Oh, and the first question should be ‰Æ‚ð instead of ‰Æ‚¨.

HTH,

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kokuou wrote:

Well, the first one means, "who has to clean the house?", so you would answer:

[ENTER NAME ETC.] ‚Å‚·B

And the second one means, "how many times a week do you have to do laundry?", so the answer would be:

[ENTER # OF TIMES] “x‚®‚ç‚¢‚Å‚·B

Oh, and the first question should be ‰Æ‚ð instead of ‰Æ‚¨.

HTH,

‘‰¤š

i see. thank you very much!
yeah, i seem to type in the wrong word o instead of wo.... :banghead:

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I have a question, can someone try to translate cheeky monkey as close to the original as possible? I know it may be difficult, but I wanna change the title of my GJ .. thanks in advance! :victory:

I have a question, can someone try to translate cheeky monkey as close to the original as possible? I know it may be difficult, but I wanna change the title of my GJ .. thanks in advance! Victory! Peace!

hmm cheeky can be translated into "wanpakui˜r”’j", "zurui ‚¸‚é‚¢"(zurui is more like cunning though),

and for monkey, if you're referring to the animal, it'll be "saru (‰Ž)", but if you're referring to the non-literal meaning (like a punk etc), you can call it "gaki (ƒKƒLj" or "yaro (–ì˜Y)" but u don't call urself yaro! :rolly:

ok i'll go think of more.

haishya wrote:

I have a question, can someone try to translate cheeky monkey as close to the original as possible? I know it may be difficult, but I wanna change the title of my GJ .. thanks in advance! Victory! Peace!

hmm cheeky can be translated into "wanpakui˜r”’j", "zurui ‚¸‚é‚¢"(zurui is more like cunning though),

and for monkey, if you're referring to the animal, it'll be "saru (‰Ž)", but if you're referring to the non-literal meaning (like a punk etc), you can call it "gaki (ƒKƒLj" or "yaro (–ì˜Y)" but u don't call urself yaro! :rolly:

ok i'll go think of more.

no, I mean the animal :sweat: thanks for translating, Ill use zurui (since it shorter to write the hiragana) and saru ^^
Thank you so much~ :woot:

i need t ask something.. can the form -nakute followed by a noun? i guess -nakute actually came from -nai and i heard words like chisanai neko. can it be chisanakute neko?? thanks before! :mrgreen:

kurokage wrote:i need t ask something.. can the form -nakute followed by a noun? i guess -nakute actually came from -nai and i heard words like chisanai neko. can it be chisanakute neko?? thanks before! :mrgreen:

I've never heard "chisanai" as an adjective or noun...what does it mean? Do you mean to type "chiisai"? Some adjectives in Japanese are required to be followed by "na" and some can or cannot, it depends on the flow of the sentence and whether you want to emphasize it. So you can say "chiisana neko" or "chiisai neko" actually--I prefer adding "na" sometimes.

As for "~nakute"...I don't think you can write "chiisanakute neko" It doesn't make sense because the "~kute" just means "and." (translation: "it's not small and cat.")
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HOWEVER....
this is confusing, but... I know there are some dialects which do not add "~ku" or the 'proper' (standard) conjugating form for negative verbs, so you get things like "Omonai" instead of "Omowanai" for "I do not think that..." ; or "Kawainai" for "Kawaikunai" (it's not cute). I do not use this dialect, so I can't explain more about it.

kurokage wrote:i need t ask something.. can the form -nakute followed by a noun? i guess -nakute actually came from -nai and i heard words like chisanai neko. can it be chisanakute neko?? thanks before! :mrgreen:

Yume got it right that it's not possible to join -nakute form with a noun. I'll explain how to make this form, and how to use/ translate it. Please carefully watch the way the parts are joined together. Anything being different from this should be seen as either false or being dialect. Note that speaking dialect might be not understandable to Japanese that do not know this dialect.


Verbal Adjective (-I Adjective) in it's different forms

The word is spelled ¬‚³‚¢i‚¿‚¢‚³‚¢jchiisai, as Yume pointed out. The variety of forms is like this:

affirmative:@ ¬‚³‚¢@@@chiisai
negative: @@¬‚³‚­‚È‚¢@chiisakunai
past:@@@ @¬‚³‚©‚Á‚½@chiisakatta

continuative affirmative: @¬‚³‚­‚ā@@@@chiisakute
continuative negative: @@¬‚³‚­‚È‚­‚ā@@chiisakunakute
negative past:@@@@@ @¬‚³‚­‚È‚©‚Á‚½@chiisakunakatta


@@@@Note: There is no continuative past. The Tense will be determined by following nouns/ verbal adjectives.


Joining an (-i) adjective to a noun:

it goes like this:

¬‚³‚¢”L@@@chiisai neko@@@@@ A small cat / A cat that is small
¬‚³‚©‚Á‚½”L@chiisakatta neko@@@A cat that was small


which is different from:

”L‚ª¬‚³‚¢@@@neko ga chiisai@@@ The cat is small
”L‚ª¬‚³‚©‚Á‚½@neko ga chiisakatta@The cat was small



The continuative form of -te:

This form of the adjective is not used to join to nouns, but rather to join to another sentence, or adjective. Like the -te form of verbs, the connection between the sentence can be many. Few of them: cause/concequence, a sequence of actions, joining to verbs as fixed combinations.

Words in these sentences come from respectively ¬‚³‚¢ chiisai, ”’‚¢ shiroi (being white), ‹‚¢ atsui (being hot), ’x‚¢ osoi (being late/slow)


¬‚³‚­‚Ä”’‚¢”L@chiisakute shiroi neko@@A small and white cat


Note: you can also make this sentence:
¬‚³‚¢”’‚¢”L@@chiisai shiroi neko@@@@A small, white cat


‹‚­‚Ä‘å•Ï‚¾‚ˁ@atsukute taihen da ne@@(It / The weather) being hot, it's aweful, isn't it?
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ It's aweful, isn't it? Because it's so hot!

’x‚­‚Đ\‚µ–ó‚ ‚è‚Ü‚¹‚ñ@osokute moushiwake arimasen@@@I'm terribly sorry for being late / because I'm late



-na form of verbal adjectives

¬‚³‚È chiisana is not a form of ¬‚³‚¢ chiisai, but a different adjective that was derived from it. It acts like a -na adjective, but it seems not possible to make it into past tense. I mean, I never heard any way to do anything with ¬‚³‚È chiisana except for the plain/affirmative way:

¬‚³‚È”L@chiisana neko@@@A small cat


There's no rule that says every Verbal Adjective (-I Adjective) can make this change into some -na adjective. There's just a few words that happened to also get a -na equivalent.

‘å‚«‚¢ ookii -> ‘å‚«‚È ookina


I couldn't find any ones besides this in my dictionary. Hopefully you were able to find the answer to your question now. If you have any more questions I'll be happy to answer them. Good luck!

Great reply, supermidget :applaud:

Sorry I haven't been much help lately; my school has decided that I should have hours and hours of homework every night :shamefulcry:

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Bravo~, supermidget! :D You typed A LOT! :metaldevil:

I'm not sure if that spells right but what does it exactly mean. Is it another to say hello or is it a way to say hello? I'm confused so can anyone tell me, please? Arigatou! o.o/)

Jin_Matsumitsu wrote:I'm not sure if that spells right but what does it exactly mean. Is it another to say hello or is it a way to say hello? I'm confused so can anyone tell me, please? Arigatou! o.o/)

I'm not sure what word you are referring to...
And for all questions about Japanese, please ask them in the existing thread.
Moving...

mina san BIG thanks to you all for the explanation!! :bow: :bow: i really really appreciate it :applaud:
oh yes, yume, i meant to type chiisanai.. i was mistaken.. :bonk: gomen nasai :victory: thanks for the dialect explanation too.. i think i heard things like that.. i heard singers say "mottenai" but my book said "motsu" should become "mottanai". is it the same thing with the dialect you talked about? aaw it's confusing! but i may not give up learning japanese :metaldevil:
supermidget, thanks a lot!! you wrote a looong explanation.. it's more than i needed to know :mrgreen: you must have spent some time just to type me this.. thank you! :bow:

Sorry I haven't been much help lately; my school has decided that I should have hours and hours of homework every night

kokuou you've been a great help! :mrgreen: don't be sorry. good luck on the homeworks! :woot:

oh, one more.. what does kagega e no nai means?? (or i think that's what i heard) i heard this twice somewhere but couldn't find any information from the dictionary. i'm sorry for i ask so many questions! :bow:

Jin_Matsumitsu wrote:I'm not sure if that spells right but what does it exactly mean. Is it another to say hello or is it a way to say hello? I'm confused so can anyone tell me, please? Arigatou! o.o/)

Hello Jin_Matsumitsu!

For some reason nobody really uses the Subject textbox, so if you have any question, it might be better to state the question inside the message itself, because it may not be noticed.

‚Ç‚¤‚à doumo is usually just a abbreviation of ‚Ç‚¤‚à‚ ‚肪‚Æ‚¤ doumo arigatou which means "Thank you very much!". So though it litterally means "very much", you could translate ‚Ç‚¤‚à doumo as "Thanks" or "Thank you".

Also, welcome to Jdorama.com. I hope you have a good time here, we're looking forward to hear your questions or discussions here and on the other boards. :victory:

kurokage wrote:i heard singers say "mottenai" but my book said "motsu" should become "mottanai". is it the same thing with the dialect you talked about? aaw it's confusing! but i may not give up learning japanese :metaldevil:
supermidget, thanks a lot!! you wrote a looong explanation.. it's more than i needed to know :mrgreen: you must have spent some time just to type me this.. thank you! :bow:

oh, one more.. what does kagega e no nai means?? (or i think that's what i heard) i heard this twice somewhere but couldn't find any information from the dictionary. i'm sorry for i ask so many questions! :bow:

It's my pleasure :woot:

Ž‚Á‚Ä‚È‚¢ mottenai is indeed colloquial language, but it's made from:
Ž‚Á‚Ä+‚¢‚È‚¢ motte + inai, which means "(I) don't have" (litterally: (I) am not having/holding)

Often when -te + iru forms of verbs are said, the i of iru is omitted, so it becomes mottenai. It's not really dialect... I'd guess about every Japanese' omits this i regularly.
Another often heard phrase where this also happens is:

s‚Á‚Ä‚¢‚ç‚Á‚µ‚á‚¢ itte irasshai
s‚Á‚Ä‚ç‚Á‚µ‚á‚¢ itte rasshai
(Litterally: "Please go and come!" => "Have a good trip"; "See you soon"; "Bye")

This is behaves like -te iru because irasshai comes from a politer verb that (sometimes) means the same as iru


In order to figure out how verbs are made it's very important to pay attention to the smallest detail:
The negative form of Ž‚ motsu is after all Ž‚½‚È‚¢ motanai and not *mottanai.


For your last question, according to my dictionary:
Š|‚¯‘Ö‚¦‚Ì‚È‚¢ kakegae no nai ~ "Thing with no substitute; Money can't buy"

I would guess you could use it in a sentence like that:

•ê«ˆ¤‚ÍŠ|‚¯‘Ö‚¦‚Ì‚È‚¢‚±‚Æ‚Å‚·B
boseiai ha kakegae no nai koto desu.
~"Maternal love is a thing that has no substitute.

Actually I haven't noticed this expression before, so maybe it's used in a different context?

supermidget wrote:

It's my pleasure :woot:

Ž‚Á‚Ä‚È‚¢ mottenai is indeed colloquial language, but it's made from:
Ž‚Á‚Ä+‚¢‚È‚¢ motte + inai, which means "(I) don't have" (litterally: (I) am not having/holding)

Often when -te + iru forms of verbs are said, the i of iru is omitted, so it becomes mottenai. It's not really dialect... I'd guess about every Japanese' omits this i regularly.
Another often heard phrase where this also happens is:

s‚Á‚Ä‚¢‚ç‚Á‚µ‚á‚¢ itte irasshai
s‚Á‚Ä‚ç‚Á‚µ‚á‚¢ itte rasshai
(Litterally: "Please go and come!" => "Have a good trip"; "See you soon"; "Bye")

This is behaves like -te iru because irasshai comes from a politer verb that (sometimes) means the same as iru


In order to figure out how verbs are made it's very important to pay attention to the smallest detail:
The negative form of Ž‚ motsu is after all Ž‚½‚È‚¢ motanai and not *mottanai.


For your last question, according to my dictionary:
Š|‚¯‘Ö‚¦‚Ì‚È‚¢ kakegae no nai ~ "Thing with no substitute; Money can't buy"

I would guess you could use it in a sentence like that:

•ê«ˆ¤‚ÍŠ|‚¯‘Ö‚¦‚Ì‚È‚¢‚±‚Æ‚Å‚·B
boseiai ha kakegae no nai koto desu.
~"Maternal love is a thing that has no substitute.

Actually I haven't noticed this expression before, so maybe it's used in a different context?

oooh... THANK YOU! :bow: you wrote a long explanation again :mrgreen: i understand now :dancing: thank you! and for that kagegae no nai too (i was so curious to find the meaning :mrgreen: ). i think the meaning you wrote suits the sentence i heard. i remember i heard this sentence from a song :
kagegae no nai ima o tomo ni arukidazo

so i guess it means let's walk on this unreplaceable present together or something like that??
once again, thank you! :woot:

kurokage wrote:

oooh... THANK YOU! :bow: you wrote a long explanation again :mrgreen: i understand now :dancing: thank you! and for that kagegae no nai too (i was so curious to find the meaning :mrgreen: ). i think the meaning you wrote suits the sentence i heard. i remember i heard this sentence from a song :
kagegae no nai ima o tomo ni arukidazo

so i guess it means let's walk on this unreplaceable present together or something like that??
once again, thank you! :woot:

Sure no problemo!

As far as I know the sentence you wrote in combination with its translation is correct, indeed. A small detail might be aruki da zo ~ 'It`s a walk'. Since I don't know the song, I may be wrong, but otherwise it may also be arikidasou •à‚«‚¾‚»‚¤ meaning "Let's start walking".

(note: kakegae no nai)