American Football (NFL, College, etc.)

Started by Geezer · 17 Aug 2004 · 4,773 replies

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1 Feb 2005, 06:50 #1001
shin2 wrote:
The Man was astute in pointing out the significant changes Jones made regarding the appearance of U of H football. The psychological effect of these visual changes can be powerful. Of course it's only good if the end result is success. :applaud:


Hey, thanks, Shin2! Thanks for also starting the topic.

Still thinking 'bout "the player" question. Though, I'm edging toward Lelie for my vote. I know he attended a local high school here. I think he just donated a high-tech scoreboard to that alma mater of his.

Great to see this topic on top again. :)
1 Feb 2005, 11:17 #1002
Timmy should consider changing his name to "Tim" or "Timothy"...

"Timmy" sounds like a little kid's name.
2 Feb 2005, 06:30 #1003
The Man wrote:I think he just donated a high-tech scoreboard to that alma mater of his.

yeah, he did donate a scoreboard. earlier, he had donated some gloves to the team as well. what can you say about the guy? he has a big heart. can't but hope he succeeds.

(too bad radford has all that fighting going on right now. saturday - big fight; mon - big fight). :shakehead:
3 Feb 2005, 09:25 #1004
bmwracer wrote:
Same here, but I'd like to see the Pats lose for a change: I'm sick of those "not in our house" credit card commercials... Annoying, arrogant crap.


Yea I thought that CM was pretty stupid but I blame Visa more for making and airring it than the Patriots for recording it. As far as I know, Brady wasn't in that CM and to me Brady is one of the most humble guys in the league. Also their kicker Vinateiri. Mr. clutch!
3 Feb 2005, 09:52 #1005
eltinator wrote:Also their kicker Vinateiri. Mr. clutch!

yeah, i doubt if you'd ever hear him referred to as 'vina-jerk' :hehe:
3 Feb 2005, 10:08 #1006
I find it interesting that, of the names being mentioned as the best player ever at U of H, Timmy Chang hasn't been mentioned. The most prolific passer in NCAA Div. I history and the guy can't get any love. :hehe:
Confession: when I thought of the question, he didn't come to my mind either.
BTW, San Diego State had a bunch of Hawaii boys commit today. I don't know exactly how these players ranked in the state, but I thought it was interesting, in light of Jholic's comments about Jones and recruiting.
3 Feb 2005, 13:11 #1007
shin2 wrote:I find it interesting that, of the names being mentioned as the best player ever at U of H, Timmy Chang hasn't been mentioned. The most prolific passer in NCAA Div. I history and the guy can't get any love. :hehe:

I'm telling you it's because he's called "Timmy."

:hehe:
3 Feb 2005, 15:06 #1008
jholic wrote:
yeah, i doubt if you'd ever hear him referred to as 'vina-jerk' :hehe:


HAHAHAHAHAHA good one :hehe: :hehe:

I also picked vinateiri on my fantasy team this year not only for his clutch kicking but the guy is a class act.
4 Feb 2005, 05:34 #1009
shin2 wrote:I find it interesting that, of the names being mentioned as the best player ever at U of H, Timmy Chang hasn't been mentioned. The most prolific passer in NCAA Div. I history and the guy can't get any love. :hehe:

i'll probably incite the anger of fellow kamaaina, The Man. :hehe:

the following is just my personal opinion .....

bmwracer wrote:Timmy should consider changing his name to "Tim" or "Timothy"...

he won't need to - he's not going to be in the nfl for long.

unfortunately, chang is really a product of the jj offense. it is my own belief that if tc were really that good, he would've broken the record far earlier than he did. if he were really that good, he would've been ready for the nfl in his junior year.

the guy's difficult to figure out. i'm not saying he's cr*p. he's loaded w/ talent - and all the more reason why i'm hard on him. he's spectacular on certain things, and yet struggles with some of the most basic of things. i attribute this to poor attitude and a lack of work ethic.

the nfl scouts are meticulous and if they review the tapes, i find it difficult to believe that they will be impressed. my prediction is that he will go no higher than the 4th round - even in a draft that doesn't have much talent as this one is going to be.

rolovich had better numbers, but unfortunately, was "cursed" with a receiver named 'ashley lelie'. if you had taken ashley away and given rolo the starting job from his freshman year, i think he probably could've had better numbers than tc and would probably be playing the nfl as a backup.

wanna know who i think is going in the nfl (from the warriors)? chad owens. 'mighty mouse' is the real deal. in a special teams that STUNK last year, he was able to make dazzling punt returns. as a receiver, he's extremely difficult to cover in the slot. his size is a detriment, but if scouts can see the heart in him, they'll know they've got a winner.

owens is also difficult to judge as well. what makes him so special is his desire to overachieve. it's awesome to see him at work, except when that overexertion sometimes causes him to fumble, field punts unnecessarily, lose yards, etc. if he can find a balance in his 'fire', he will be in the nfl as a starting kr/pr or even in the slot.


all that being said, the outlook for qb looks kinda bleak. and i'm not sure why. i find it difficult to believe that we cannot recruit a good qb from the country. maybe they want more exposure?

i've seen akina play - good accuracy, but happy feet. rhode and rolo's younger bro, jack? didn't look that good. i know that funoki guy (who was oia's POY in 2002) is supposed to play this season, but he looked a little short.

well, that's my piece.
4 Feb 2005, 05:36 #1010
hey, so only a few days left till superbowl sunday. still no predictions?
4 Feb 2005, 06:16 #1011
I have three concerns with Timmy Chang: those three reasons are I N T.

Also, Chang certainly goes down in UH f-ball history as one of the greats. Just can't deny that when you got national numbers.

Finally (jholic, join me), with regard to the Warriors first game of the season (here comes the big, bolded font), and, yes, this is despite how I feel how great the Trojans are:

USC GOING DOWN AT ALOHA STADIUM!!!

THE LOSS IS A-COMIN' SO' CAL!


Ahem.

You heard it here first.
4 Feb 2005, 06:43 #1012
I think the main concern about Timmy Chang can be summed up in the words... Run and Shoot.

Mouse Davis' Run and Shoot offense is a lot of fun to watch in college games (I watched him develop it at Cal). And June Jones runs it well at Hawaii.

But he, and a number of other coaches tried it in the NFL... and it doesn't work.

Again, I'm not Kreskin, but I don't see Chang having any more success in the NFL than Ty Detmer or Tim Rattay. (The two guys whose records he broke)

Both of those guys put up phenominal numbers in high flying College systems. But the spread, the run and shoot, and Spurrier's fun and gun offenses can't cope with the speed and power of NFL defenders. Mostly the speed.

My nickle says that any team that drafts him will come away from summer camp saying he's light years away from being able to play in the NFL.
4 Feb 2005, 07:59 #1013
It's official, Emmitt Smith has retired:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3368508

Now Jerry Rice is next. For years, my private speculation is that Jerry kept going in order to keep Emmitt from breaking his all-time touchdown record. Of course, Jerry has a host of other reasons to keep playing as well.



Hut hut hike!
-PCM
4 Feb 2005, 08:02 #1014
jholic wrote:hey, so only a few days left till superbowl sunday. still no predictions?


Well here's my prediction: Patriots over the Eagles 27-13

Aww Emmit retired. Damn I was looking forward to drafting him next year in fantasy league. Great career nonetheless. :applaud:
4 Feb 2005, 12:14 #1015
eltinator wrote:Well here's my prediction: Patriots over the Eagles 27-13

No....! :sweat: :sweat:
4 Feb 2005, 12:27 #1016
bmwracer wrote:
No....! :sweat: :sweat:


hahaha, sorry man, I'm a part time Pats fan so I gotta stand by them :hehe:
4 Feb 2005, 12:30 #1017
eltinator wrote:hahaha, sorry man, I'm a part time Pats fan so I gotta stand by them :hehe:

Part time or fair weather?? :hehe:
4 Feb 2005, 13:05 #1018
bmwracer wrote:
Part time or fair weather?? :hehe:


Hahaha same difference :hehe: :hehe:

But yea, I think the Pats will win but it'd be nice if the Eagles win too. They deserve it also and it would be a big let down if they lose having finally made it to the superbowl!
4 Feb 2005, 13:52 #1019
eltinator wrote:But yea, I think the Pats will win but it'd be nice if the Eagles win too.

Same here: I think the Pats will win :bleh: , but I want the Eagles to win...
4 Feb 2005, 15:48 #1020
I think the Pats will win,

And I want the Iggles to be out and out humiliated.

Remember the Niners Denver SB? 55 to 10, Niners.

Yeah, like that, only worse.

In the shop pool I have Owens playing... dropping three... and fumbling once.

Don't let me down TO.

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