Food, Food, and More Food Thread

Started by bmwracer · 6 Oct 2004 · 25,210 replies

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5 Aug 2006, 02:32 #9101
kitakaze wrote:not non-fat, but at my last blood test I don't have to worry about cholesterol yet.

It's never too soon apparently. :sweat:
5 Aug 2006, 02:35 #9102
bmwracer wrote:
It's never too soon apparently. :sweat:


Well...I've got family history on my side and I have a pretty good balanced diet low on meats and high on fruits and vegetables, so an 8oz cup of Brown Cow probably won't hurt...at least not for another twenty years :sweat:
5 Aug 2006, 12:31 #9103
Had dinner with my Aunt at Curry House... Curry Pilaf for me and she had Chicken Katsu Curry...

Lotsa cute gals in the restaurant... Late teens, early twenties... Too young, I'm afraid. :sweat:
5 Aug 2006, 12:53 #9104
bmwracer wrote:
Lotsa cute gals in the restaurant... Late teens, early twenties... Too young, I'm afraid. :sweat:


That sucks man :puppydog:
5 Aug 2006, 12:54 #9105
K.T.Tran wrote:That sucks man :puppydog:

Big time. :puppydog:
5 Aug 2006, 12:59 #9106
Not if you add up their age. 2 x 20 = 40 ;)
5 Aug 2006, 13:01 #9107
bmwracer wrote:Had dinner with my Aunt at Curry House... Curry Pilaf for me and she had Chicken Katsu Curry...

Lotsa cute gals in the restaurant... Late teens, early twenties... Too young, I'm afraid. :sweat:


send them this way....j/k....i think the early twenties girlies are my limit... :naughty:
5 Aug 2006, 13:04 #9108
tabana wrote:Not if you add up their age. 2 x 20 = 40 ;)

Good man: I never thought about two at a time... :naughty:
5 Aug 2006, 13:35 #9109
Time for some Cheerios. :)
5 Aug 2006, 22:51 #9110
K.T.Tran wrote:

oohhh.....

Love the description :mrgreen:
"young, fresh, firm, juicy......." :drooling: :drooling:
I must jump on that plane for Nihon pronto :mrgreen:


go forth brutha....the best takoyaya is when the "HOT NOW" light is on like a Krispy Kreme.
5 Aug 2006, 23:00 #9111
Hey Triky, you said you were popping omega-3 pills... What brand do you recommend?

According to my test results (which I haven't received in the mail yet) my HDL is low at 39 and should be closer to 60 and above, so I was thinking about adding an omega-3 supplement to my diet...
5 Aug 2006, 23:15 #9112
bmwracer wrote:Hey Triky, you said you were popping omega-3 pills... What brand do you recommend?

According to my test results (which I haven't received in the mail yet) my HDL is low at 39 and should be closer to 60 and above, so I was thinking about adding an omega-3 supplement to my diet...


oh yeah i didn't congratulate you on your test results :applaud:
....amazing i must say...congrats your dietary discipline paid off!!!

welps i've used three at any given time and sometimes i use a bit of all three

Mera Pharmauceticals makes a great high quality Omega-3 softgel supplement supplemented with Asthaxanthin an AMAGINGLY powerful antioxidant it's called Salmon Essentials

http://www.astafactor.com/essentials.htm (if you use the coupon code "well1" you get a WHOPPING 50 percent off, man...trust me this deal is unbeatable!!!!!)

read about asthaxanthin:

-Virtually eliminates arthritis pain for many people
-Eases or eliminates chronic back pain
-Accelerates muscle healing for strength trainers, weekend warriors, and people who get sore easily (I use it following my strenuous gymnastics workouts, and my soreness recovery time has been cut in half)
-Functions as an internal sunscreen to enhance your tolerance of sun exposure
-Offers powerful protection for the eyes and prevents macular degeneration
-Prevents heart disease due to oxidative damage
- Boosts immune system function
- Reduces pain from carpal tunnel syndrome and repetitive motion injuries
-Protects the nervous system from degenerative diseases like Alzheimer's Disease
- Multiplies the effects of vitamin E and vitamin C in your body
- Enhances athletic performance: both strength and endurance
-Lowers LDL cholesterol


read about it


I also started using NKO Antaratic Krill Oil Omega-3....I mentioned this to you that Krill Oil has been showed in at least one study as possibly more effective that fish oil Omega-3 in lowering Cholesterol

http://www.neptunebiotech.com/1024/products/Hyperlipidemia_Study.pdf
http://www.neptunebiotech.com/1024/products/NKO_HYPERLIPIDEMIA.pdf


and i've also used a Life Extension's Super EPA/DHA with Sesame Lignans & Olive Fruit Extract


The important thing is that these high quality supplements are molecularly distilled so that it removes mercury, dioxins, PCBS, and other impurities...

for you i would recommend the Salmon Essentials because it has Asthaxanthin and may help with your back too! :victory:
5 Aug 2006, 23:20 #9113
I know you asked Tu-Tricky, but...I'm always happy to barge in. You could always try tuna too...but supplements tend to be sketchy since there's no trials for them. Natrol is a brand I use for Acidophilus and they sell omega-3.
5 Aug 2006, 23:24 #9114
Tu_triky wrote:for you i would recommend the Salmon Essentials because it has Asthaxanthin and may help with your back too! :victory:

Thanks for the recommendations...


Salmon Essentials?? :headscratch:

Is that a dietary supplement or do I uuse it in my hair? :hehe:
5 Aug 2006, 23:26 · edited #9115
kitakaze wrote:I know you asked Tu-Tricky, but...I'm always happy to barge in. You could always try tuna too...but supplements tend to be sketchy since there's no trials for them. Natrol is a brand I use for Acidophilus and they sell omega-3.


no need to hold back you have a body of knowledge that the average layperson doesn't and your expertise is welcome...

but kitakaze....eating lots of fish is no longer safer than a high quality supplement....because almost every fish is polluted with mercury....the research is OVERWHELMING on this fact...tuna IS an excellent source of omega-3 but becaue it is a top level predator fish that means it tends to have more mercury than smaller fish...because the mercury is lipophilic it gets stored in the fat...so the since the fish (as are humans) are bioaccumulators of mercury the bigger the fish the more mercury it has....that's why the top level predators have a lot of mercury compared to smaller fish....fish like sharks and tilefish...


put it this way...i tested my hair for heavy metals and the sample came back high for mercury! and i don't have any "silver" dental amalgams which are made with mercury oxides.

i can tell you that i got the high mercury reading because i used to eat a lot of tuna. now i'm trying to get rid of it...

www.gotmercury.org (good resource)
5 Aug 2006, 23:26 #9116
bmwracer wrote:
Thanks for the recommendations...


Salmon Essentials?? :headscratch:

Is that a dietary supplement or do I uuse it in my hair? :hehe:


*imagines Beem in a Herbal Essence-type commercial rubbing salmon filets into his hair*

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
5 Aug 2006, 23:29 #9117
bmwracer wrote:
Thanks for the recommendations...


Salmon Essentials?? :headscratch:

Is that a dietary supplement or do I uuse it in my hair? :hehe:


lol....too funny...nah seriously though read about asthaxanthin...i use it daily....it has lots of healthful properities and its oxygen radical scavenging proporities are like 500 times stronger than Vitamin E.


trust me with that coupon you will not find a cheaper source of salmon essentials...

of course read up on it...but i only gave you recommendations after extensive research and it's what i take personally so...i'm puttin' my money where my mouth is.
5 Aug 2006, 23:31 #9118
kitakaze wrote:I know you asked Tu-Tricky, but...I'm always happy to barge in. You could always try tuna too...

The problem with eating tuna is the heavy metals issue... I like tuna, but I don't think eating 6 oz. per week is gonna jack my HDL significantly, if at all... Salmon has considerably less heavy metals, but it's pricey and you have to worry about other contaminants like dioxin, PCBs, etc.

but supplements tend to be sketchy since there's no trials for them.

Agreed. I've been leafing through my issues of Consumer Reports for omega-3 supplement comments, but haven't found any recommended brands... Though they do think they help.
5 Aug 2006, 23:32 #9119
Tu_triky wrote:

no need to hold back you have a body of knowledge that the average layperson doesn't and your expertise is welcome...

but kitakaze....eating lots of fish no longer safer than a high quality supplement....because almost every fish is polluted with mercury....the research is OVERWHELMING on this fact...tuna IS an excellent source of omega-3 but becaue it is a top level predator fish that means it tends to have more mercury than smaller fish...because the mercury is lipophilic it gets stored in the fat...so the since the fish (as are humans) are bioaccumulators of mercury the bigger the fish the more mercury it has....that's why the top level predators have a lot of mercury compared to smaller fish....fish like sharks and tilefish...


put this way...i tested my hair for heavy metals and the sample came back high for mercury! and i don't have any "silver" dental amalgams which are made with mercury oxides.

i can tell you that i got the high mercury reading because i used to eat a lot of tuna. now i'm trying to get rid of it...

www.gotmercury.org (good resource)


Thanks for the info :) I'll probably be dead in the next ten years. I just mentioned tuna because naturally occuring acids like that are better absorbed from natural sources.

Nah...I didn't go too much into supplements in my pharm tech course, they stayed mainly to drugs that are part of the USP...which most supplements except vitamins, calcium, and iron aren't part of.

I know that supplements can be touch and go because there's not a lot of data on how well they absorb into your system. Most are best taken with a small meal. Maybe BMW can take it with 8oz of yogurt :hehe:
5 Aug 2006, 23:37 #9120
bmwracer wrote:
Agreed. I've been leafing through my issues of Consumer Reports for omega-3 supplement comments, but haven't found any recommended brands... Though they do think they help.



another recommended brand is Metagenics.....they have a superior standard of quality...only available at doctor's offices or online...it's not avaialble in-store retail.

dood the research on Omega-3 is irrefutable at this point...there's been so much research it's irrefutable
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http://www.omega-3info.com/latestfishoilnews.htm

24th March 2006

Fish Oils good for heart health

The majority of the 89 studies within a recent review paper published in the British Medical Journal have confirmed the heart health benefits of Omega-3 fatty acids.

This paper is the latest in a raft of international evidence which dates back nearly 30 years and demonstrates the value of the marine-sourced Omega-3 nutrients for heart health protection. It is so compelling that the UK Government and the FDA in the USA recommend an regular intake either of oily fish or fish oil supplements – both amongst the population at large and amongst people at risk. The medical profession is also convinced and prescribes fish oil supplements for the treatment of people at high risk of a heart attack either due to raised triglyceride levels or as a result of a previous heart attack.

However this paper includes one particular study, which is so out of step with the evidence supporting the heart health benefits of oily fish or fish oil consumption established by other larger trials that the author has himself questioned the outcome and this one study has influenced the outcome of the whole review paper from positive to negative.

Perhaps the most likely explanation for the results in this one-off study, which comes amongst many positive trials, is risk compensation behaviour, i.e. patients who were taking capsules to protect their heart modified other parts of their lifestyle in a negative way, e.g. starting smoking again, little exercise, or eating a poor diet.

Until investigations are completed, the consensus of advice from specialists in nutrition and heart health is that the population at large should continue to ensure intake of the essential omega-3 fatty acids either by eating at least one oily fish meal a week or taking a fish oil supplement. People being treated for high triglycerides and/or who have already suffered a heart attack should adhere to medical advice, which may include taking prescription fish oils.

Tom Sanders, Professor of Nutrition, Kingfs College, London comments:
hIt is disappointing that when the vast majority of the evidence points to the positive benefits of Omega-3 Fish Oils for heart, that one review paper can cause so much concern amongst consumers.h

Since the original publication in 2004 of this review online in the Cochrane Library, a number of very positive studies have been published, including the JPHC Study Cohort (Circulation 2006;113:195-202) amongst 41,578 Japanese men and women, which showed a substantial reduced risk of coronary heart disease in those persons with a higher fish intake.

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