Go: Hime-tachi no Sengoku - 2011 NHK Taiga

Madoka wrote:Harsh... :shakehead:

:beatyou: i hate this news

Liubeibei wrote:
OT #2: Akechi-sama is gonna be playing Saru in this upcoming Sengoku movie called ‚Ì‚Ú‚¤‚̏é (Nobou no Shiro, or Nobou's Castle). It's about the Battle of Oshi Castle (Hideyoshi vs the Hojo clan of Kanto). Suzuki Honami, Hira Takehiro and Ashida Mana will be in this movie too.
http://nobou-movie.jp/index.html

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finish watching Episode 7 :victory:

i love these scenes

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the same hakama :hehe:

ingesz wrote:[image]

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the same hakama :hehe:

Good observation! :applaud:

I just read that article too.

Boy I really don't get why some people think these "dramas" have to be historically accurate. If I want real history, I would just read books or watch documentaries, and who is to say that those are 100% accurate, too?

I also read the original JP article on J-Cast:
http://www.j-cast.com/2011/02/25089097.html?p=all

How is her portrayal of Gou a "baka-hime"? Good grief, it's a freaking "drama." It's a, to a certain point, historical fiction. It's made to entertain, not to teach history. One would be a fool to believe everything in those Taiga dramas to be 100% real. So why expect Gou to be as such?

This story is on Gou, and there is very little information on the childhood part of her life, of course many things have to be made up. Or maybe those people just wanted Tabuchi to skip Gou's entire childhood? That's not possible with Saji Kazunari being part of her life during this time.

And I saw some criticisms (not in this article, though) that Hideyoshi is made to act like a fool. In the Taiga's I've watched, all Hideyoshi's have acted like goof-balls in some way, shape, or form. Goof-balls can be wise, and Kishitani Goro's Hideyoshi has really shown his wiseness, especially in the recent episodes.

I am a history buff myself (though mostly on the Chinese side, I didn't start reading about the Sengoku era until about 8 years ago), but I believe myself to be open-minded enough to watch these dramas while not expecting everything to be true to history.

Like I mentioned before, I just started watching Nodame, I think she plays the two roles very differently. Seriously, I can't wait for her Gou character to grow into adulthood and let her acting really shut those people up.

As far as I'm concerned, I'm being entertained and will continue watching, but just had to get the above outta my chest.

/rant off

bmwracer wrote:
Good observation! :applaud:

:woot: +1

BTW, Oda Nobunaga's childhood name is "Kichiboshi ‹g–@Žt," only one word different from his grandson "Sanboshi ŽO–@Žt," who will later be Oda Hidenobu.

Liubeibei wrote:I just read that article too.

Boy I really don't get why some people think these "dramas" have to be historically accurate. If I want real history, I would just read books or watch documentaries, and who is to say that those are 100% accurate, too?

I also read the original JP article on J-Cast:
http://www.j-cast.com/2011/02/25089097.html?p=all

How is her portrayal of Gou a "baka-hime"? Good grief, it's a freaking "drama." It's a, to a certain point, historical fiction. It's made to entertain, not to teach history. One would be a fool to believe everything in those Taiga dramas to be 100% real. So why expect Gou to be as such?

This story is on Gou, and there is very little information on the childhood part of her life, of course many things have to be made up. Or maybe those people just wanted Tabuchi to skip Gou's entire childhood? That's not possible with Saji Kazunari being part of her life during this time.

And I saw some criticisms (not in this article, though) that Hideyoshi is made to act like a fool. In the Taiga's I've watched, all Hideyoshi's have acted like goof-balls in some way, shape, or form. Goof-balls can be wise, and Kishitani Goro's Hideyoshi has really shown his wiseness, especially in the recent episodes.

I am a history buff myself (though mostly on the Chinese side, I didn't start reading about the Sengoku era until about 8 years ago), but I believe myself to be open-minded enough to watch these dramas while not expecting everything to be true to history.

Like I mentioned before, I just started watching Nodame, I think she plays the two roles very differently. Seriously, I can't wait for her Gou character to grow into adulthood and let her acting really shut those people up.

As far as I'm concerned, I'm being entertained and will continue watching, but just had to get the above outta my chest.

/rant off

Thanks for the unbiased rant. :victory: :applaud:

I could go off as well, but it's so well documented that I'm a fanboy of hers, people would just ignore my comments as biased rants.

I need to read up on Hideyoshi... Is he really that eccentric? :sweat:

Liubeibei wrote:
Like I mentioned before, I just started watching Nodame, I think she plays the two roles very differently. Seriously, I can't wait for her Gou character to grow into adulthood and let her acting really shut those people up.

As far as I'm concerned, I'm being entertained and will continue watching, but just had to get the above outta my chest.

/rant off

:applaud: i'll continue to watch it no matter what
they're just lack of imagination :nut: and this :nyah: for Hiruma Masaaki too serious people :grumble:

Liubeibei wrote:
BTW, Oda Nobunaga's childhood name is "Kichiboshi ‹g–@Žt," only one word different from his grandson "Sanboshi ŽO–@Žt," who will later be Oda Hidenobu.

:thumbsup: why they have to chance their name? and when it'll be ?

bmwracer wrote:
I could go off as well, but it's so well documented that I'm a fanboy of hers, people would just ignore my comments as biased rants.

i will never ignore your comments :naughty:

Liubeibei wrote:I just read that article too.

Boy I really don't get why some people think these "dramas" have to be historically accurate.

Because then we'd have something like what Hong Kong produces. Nobunaga rolling into battle in a car, his army with semiautomatic guns, Tom Cruise saving the day.....

Kijinnmaru wrote:Nobunaga rolling into battle in a car, [...].

*cough* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZjNB8Z2SQM *cough*

bmwracer wrote:I need to read up on Hideyoshi... Is he really that eccentric? :sweat:

In the adaptations I've watched, each actor has his own way of portraying Hideyoshi's eccentricity. Some does more, some does less. Kishiani Goro is one of those on the "more" side, lol.

ingesz wrote:why they have to chance their name? and when it'll be ?

Boys around the age of mid-teens would have their coming-of-age ceremony (genpuku Œ³•ž), and this is when they changed from their childhood names to adult/samurai names.

On the naming, often the boy will inherite one character from the father/adoptive father's name. Example:
Oda Nobuhide => Oda Nobunaga => Oda Nobutada => Oda Hidenobu (Sanboshi).

In some clans, only the eldest son could inherit the character at a specific part of the name (as in inheriting the character for the first or second word of his name). Take the Mori clan of Chugoku as an example:
Mori Hiromoto => Mori Motonari (second son) => Mori Takamoto (eldest) => Mori Terumoto (eldest)

Kijinnmaru wrote:
Because then we'd have something like what Hong Kong produces. Nobunaga rolling into battle in a car, his army with semiautomatic guns, Tom Cruise saving the day.....

Who are we to say that Nobunaga didn't get out of Honnoji by a helicopter? XD

7th-key wrote:
*cough* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZjNB8Z2SQM *cough*

LOL :mrgreen:

Liubeibei wrote:Boys around the age of mid-teens would have their coming-of-age ceremony (genpuku Œ³•ž), and this is when they changed from their childhood names to adult/samurai names.

On the naming, often the boy will inherite one character from the father/adoptive father's name. Example:
Oda Nobuhide => Oda Nobunaga => Oda Nobutada => Oda Hidenobu (Sanboshi).

In some clans, only the eldest son could inherit the character at a specific part of the name (as in inheriting the character for the first or second word of his name). Take the Mori clan of Chugoku as an example:
Mori Hiromoto => Mori Motonari (second son) => Mori Takamoto (eldest) => Mori Terumoto (eldest)

i see :good:

7th-key wrote:
*cough* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZjNB8Z2SQM *cough*

very nice find 7th-key :tickle:
this is Nobunaga's the 2nd CM i've watch beside KDDI
hmmm, how to say it... he's just perfect to wear Yukata :smitten:

Liubeibei wrote:

bmwracer wrote:I need to read up on Hideyoshi... Is he really that eccentric? :sweat:

In the adaptations I've watched, each actor has his own way of portraying Hideyoshi's eccentricity. Some does more, some does less. Kishiani Goro is one of those on the "more" side, lol.

I'll say. :sweat:

Hideyoshi's "antics" seem to upset the flow of the story, IMO... Much more than adults portraying children... ;)

bmwracer wrote:
Hideyoshi's "antics" seem to upset the flow of the story, IMO... Much more than adults portraying children... ;)

I'm not that bothered by him (yet), because I hope the plan is for him to straighten up from now on and so show his growth. Having lost his master he should be now at a turning point. :dotdotdot:

7th-key wrote:I'm not that bothered by him (yet), because I hope the plan is for him to straighten up from now on and so show his growth. Having lost his master he should be now at a turning point. :dotdotdot:

Maybe he needs O-Ne to b-slap him around for an episode or two. :mrgreen:

bmwracer wrote:
Maybe he needs O-Ne to b-slap him around for an episode or two. :mrgreen:

If not, I guess the Azai sisters will...

Spoiler — click to reveal

if he'll end up with those 3 quite temperamental and strong willed teenagers under his roof... poor Hideyoshi. :beaten:

7th-key wrote:If not, I guess the Azai sisters will...

Spoiler — click to reveal

if he'll end up with those 3 quite temperamental and strong willed teenagers under his roof... poor Hideyoshi. :beaten:

LOL.

Go's already tried to strangle him once before... :rofl:

A Japanese Actor,Yasuo Daichi,who performed in the drama "Go Himetachi no Sengoku" Katsuie Shibata,Go's stepfather talked about Juri Ueno and her acting as a princess Go.

He said "Juri Ueno faithfully performed the post.She did not do a useless speaking. She was worried reading a script for a long time.I couldn't understand whether Juri Ueno was worried to think about acting or Go herself was worried".

Additionally,he said"Juri Ueno is very serious about her work unusually and is very hopeful.She can take care with surroundings and is good actor."

bmwracer wrote:
Thanks for the unbiased rant. :victory: :applaud:

I could go off as well, but it's so well documented that I'm a fanboy of hers, people would just ignore my comments as biased rants.

I need to read up on Hideyoshi... Is he really that eccentric? :sweat:

He likes gay thing.Do you know room for tea celemony made of gold in Osaka castle,which he made his vassal make.

Ken Sanada wrote:A Japanese Actor,Yasuo Daichi,who performed in the drama "Go Himetachi no Sengoku" Katsuie Shibata,Go's stepfather talked about Juri Ueno and her acting as a princess Go.

He said "Juri Ueno faithfully performed the post.She did not do a useless speaking. She was worried reading a script for a long time.I couldn't understand whether Juri Ueno was worried to think about acting or Go herself was worried".

Additionally,he said"Juri Ueno is very serious about her work unusually and is very hopeful.She can take care with surroundings and is good actor."

ouh what a relieved news, Yasuo Daichi arigatouuuuuu .... :bow:

is there any other comment by the actors in gou??? :sweat: