Dotch Cooking Show

Here we go...the Northern Cal edition:

Carbonara vs. Meat sauce (pastas)

The final verdict? Carbonara 6-1. And the non-eater? Why it's that SMAP guy...

dochira wrote:Here we go...the Northern Cal edition:

Carbonara vs. Meat sauce (pastas)

The final verdict? Carbonara 6-1. And the non-eater? Why it's that SMAP guy...

I love it when that smap dude doesnt win... He wins too much and needs to get off the show... :hehe:

dochira wrote:The final verdict? Carbonara 6-1. And the non-eater? Why it's that SMAP guy...

:lol: :lol:


That's what I call an episode...! :applaud: :hehe:

Ken-chan wrote:
cutting the crust of the bread is very common in japan, when you'll buy a sandwich or something you mostly get it without the crest and tyey love mayo :) they sometimes even cut the crest from toasts...

i've asked someone about this and they say majority of the people feel the crust is dirty because the oven has been used so many times that there are dirty elements that get onto the crust of the bread. so they cut the crust off the bread. they say the crust of the bread is the worse thing to put in the body. plus the crust makes the body much more dehydrated. i don't know, but i like the crust of bread, esp. crust of pizza.

how long has Kusanagi Tsuyoshi (SMAP) been on this Dotch Cooking Show?

redsun wrote:how long has Kusanagi Tsuyoshi (SMAP) been on this Dotch Cooking Show?

I have no idea but ever since I started watching this show, he has been on every episode.

redsun wrote:i've asked someone about this and they say majority of the people feel the crust is dirty because the oven has been used so many times that there are dirty elements that get onto the crust of the bread. so they cut the crust off the bread. they say the crust of the bread is the worse thing to put in the body. plus the crust makes the body much more dehydrated.

That's ridiculous.

I agree....ridiculous.

If a person doesn't CLEAN the oven, then I guess so...? Japanese people don't cook with ovens nearly as much as North Americans or Europeans do...perhaps this is the reason that people would even be bothered to believe something like this? :sweat:

Heh, even if you didn't clean your oven, your baking/broiling stuff at 350+ degrees... Not too much bacteria is gonna survive that temperature onslaught...

And when it comes to breadmaking, don't a lot of Japanese use those Teflon-coated bread machines made by Zojirushi? :D

bmwracer wrote:Heh, even if you didn't clean your oven, your baking/broiling stuff at 350+ degrees... Not too much bacteria is gonna survive that temperature onslaught...

people told me it is not about the bacteria because obvious the heat kills it off cuz so hot. the dirty stuff they are referring to is the "charcoal" or whatever "burnt" specks they see on the crust. they say it is unhealthy to eat something that is baked so dried up. that is why they only eat the center. it is not just Japanese people that don't eat the crust, lots of Chinese people don't eat it as well. lots of other Asians too.

redsun wrote:people told me it is not about the bacteria because obvious the heat kills it off cuz so hot. the dirty stuff they are referring to is the "charcoal" or whatever "burnt" specks they see on the crust. they say it is unhealthy to eat something that is baked so dried up. that is why they only eat the center. it is not just Japanese people that don't eat the crust, lots of Chinese people don't eat it as well. lots of other Asians too.

Sounds like these people are overbaking their bread if it's that burnt on the outside...

Besides, it's just charcoal/carbon. Not the tastiest thing to eat, but if you're hung over, eating burnt toast is supposed to help: the carbon helps detoxify your body. :)


From HowStuffWorks.com:

Burnt Toast

Surprisingly enough, the burnt toast remedy is actually based on scientific fact. The secret behind this cure is the carbon in the charred bread. Carbon acts like a filter in the body, attracting the impurities released during alcohol metabolism. It can react with some congener molecules, so the body can't absorb them.

Carbon does this so well, in fact, that doctors treat emergency room patients with alcohol poisoning by pumping a carbon mixture into their stomachs to prevent them from dying of toxicity. This filtering effect is also behind the success of over-the-counter remedies such as Chaser and Sob'r-K HangoverStopper, which claim carbon as their main ingredient (more on over-the-counter remedies below). Carbon is effective as a preventative measure as well as a morning-after helper.

bmwracer wrote:
Sounds like these people are overbaking their bread if it's that burnt on the outside...

Besides, it's just charcoal/carbon. Not the tastiest thing to eat, but if you're hung over, eating burnt toast is supposed to help: the carbon helps detoxify your body. :)

that's interesting. well, i've eaten overdone pizza at the restaurant and the good thing about it was that it was crunchy and the fact it had lots of tomato sauce helped to cover the "burnt" taste. but the Japanese, Chinese, Korean people, if they saw me eat that, they would shake their heads in disapproval and lecture on how bad the "burnt" crust is. i've been lectured so many times on this, aiyaiyai, *sigh*. even when at the bakery shop Asian people tell the seller to sell them the "whiter" breads and baked goods. they say to not give them the "burnt" ones.

redsun wrote:that's interesting. well, i've eaten overdone pizza at the restaurant and the good thing about it was that it was crunchy and the fact it had lots of tomato sauce helped to cover the "burnt" taste. but the Japanese, Chinese, Korean people, if they saw me eat that, they would shake their heads in disapproval and lecture on how bad the "burnt" crust is. i've been lectured so many times on this, aiyaiyai, *sigh*. even when at the bakery shop Asian people tell the seller to sell them the "whiter" breads and baked goods. they say to not give them the "burnt" ones.

Yeah, I do notice that the Japanese like white bread, possibly for that reason. Me, I'm a whole wheat person, crust and all. :hehe:

Interestingly, Asians don't seem to object to meat and fish getting burnt a bit, ne? :beaten:

bmwracer wrote:
Interestingly, Asians don't seem to object to meat and fish getting burnt a bit, ne? :beaten:

Yep, and we dont call it burnt, we say it is brown or carmalized.... :hehe:

Mr.ChoyBoi wrote:Yep, and we dont call it burnt, we say it is brown or carmalized.... :hehe:

I've never heard Carl's Jr. called their charbroiled burgers, "caramelized" burgers... :hehe:

Interestingly, Asians don't seem to object to meat and fish getting burnt a bit, ne? :beaten:

that's true. as for me, i like meat and fish to be well done, esp. fish. fish taste yummy when it is a bit more extra fried.

yeah whole wheat bread taste good with the crust, without the crust it is like eating mush.

i think Asian people like steamed buns more than baked buns, what do you guys think?

Actually, all of my Korean friends seemed to gasp when I ate well-done meat at Yakiniku (kind of like a BBQ place, where you cook your meals on a grill before you). I have always been taught to eat at least somewhat well-done meat.

But my Korean friends kept saying that meat that is slightly burnt is EXTREMELY bad for your health, blah blah, and eating darkened meat that's not easy to chew can cause "cancer or something." Somehow, I don't believe this... :grumble:

A lot of my Japanese friends are also keen on eating soft, medium-rare. Not for mysterious "health" reasons, probably just preference, though...

yume wrote:But my Korean friends kept saying that meat that is slightly burnt is EXTREMELY bad for your health, blah blah, and eating darkened meat that's not easy to chew can cause "cancer or something." Somehow, I don't believe this... :grumble:

I do recall some reports that over-fried/grilled/broiled meat possibly could produce low-level toxins/carcinogens, but as with most things, moderation and common sense is the key... I don't thing having a charbroiled burger or a nice barbequed steak once in a while is gonna kill you... :)

I've heard that getting a burger too well done can release something that can give you cancer too, but it's not going to stop me from eating burgers.

KusanagiRocks wrote:I've heard that getting a burger too well done can release something that can give you cancer too, but it's not going to stop me from eating burgers.

Just don't eat 'em every day. :)